I aM floored. I just received notice from GA Board of Nursing that they denied the endorsement of my MN RN license because I did not meet clinical practice requirements . When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
Has anyone else experienced this. I thought we should at least have gotten some sort of notice/warning before this type of rule be adopted by the board. I am going to file a motion for reconsideration using an Attorney. Before I entered Excelsiors program I called GA Board to verify acceptance. I had been accepted to a traditional LPN to RN bridge program; I could have been almost finished their too. I am so sad right now. I have been crying for two days. I think I will need to see my doctor for Zoloft.
I have been an LPN for over 13 years doing Med/Surg for at least 10. I work on a hospital unit right now. THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!:banghead:
So working under the supervision of RNs as an LPN doesn't count I guess??? EC works with those who are already practiced as clinical nurses. I don't get what the problem is - can they not delineate between RNs with no clinical experience and practicing, licensed nurses?
They keep bringing up the safety issue as far as denying licensure. So are they implying that prior trained paramedics and LPNs are somehow more unsafe than generic RNs or RNs that go to traditional schools. If we, paramedics and LPNs, are so "unsafe" why are we heavily utilized in the field? I don't know of any paramedic and LPN programs that would knowingly allow "unsafe" individuals complete their program and graduate.
I know I read somewhere that any posts regarding Excelsior should be put in the Distance Learning section. Unfortunately, that would limit exposure to important questions people are asking about Excelsior College.
Just because you earn a nursing degree with Excelsior, doesn't mean your state board of nursing will let you test !!!!!!! Ask your state board not only if they approve Excelsior College, but if they might have future intentions of dropping Excelsior from their approved nursing schools.
Lastly, some employers are starting to require you graduate from an approved nursing school. That has nothing to do with whether you have an RN license.
These are extremely important considerations, and I thank allnurses.com for giving all of us a forum.
Specializes in CHPLN- Cert. hospice/palliative care LPN.
]Morning all! Here is something I came across in a different group. Are you all familiar with this congressional bill (HR 5924)? If not... hold on to your hat folks!
This is what has currently happened in the House
They are worried about excelsior students working in the states, but
what about those who are here on visas
Urge Congress to Support HR 5924: Legislation to Address Nursing
Shortage
Bill will provide visas for properly qualified RNs
While the shortage of nursing and healthcare workers persists, a visa
shortage has compounded the impact of the workforce shortage by
limiting the ability of American hospitals to hire foreign nursing
professionals.
The Emergency Nursing Supply Relief Act, (H.R. 5924), will help
alleviate the nursing shortage by providing visas for properly
qualified registered nurses to work in the U.S.
House panel passes bill to ease nurse shortage
A subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee on Aug. 1 voted 7-2
to approve H.R. 5924, American Hospital Association-backed
legislation that would allow more foreign-educated nurses to work in
the U.S. and help U.S. nursing schools expand the domestic supply of
nurses. The bill would reserve 20,000 employment-based visas in each
of the next three years for foreign-educated registered nurses and
physical therapists. It also would provide funds to expand U.S.
nursing schools and create a pilot program aimed at keeping U.S.
nurses in the workforce.
The U.S. has a waiting list for employment-based visas for nurses,
and its nurse education programs turned away more than 150,000
qualified applicants last year due to lack of faculty and clinical
space. The bill was approved by the Judiciary Immigration,
Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
Subcommittee.
]Here is a link where you can view the bill and even leave comments, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER to be respectful... OUTRAGED YES... but remember we are trying to make a point of our professionalism and we want our comments to reflect that. That being said...
]When I originally created it, GA had not announced their new law. However, it does also address the "national concerns" of these types of legislation so I have suggested that GA also sign it and print off a copy to take with you to your BON meeting next month. Once you've signed it PLEASE FORWARD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! We're trying to get big numbers here!
Ok I check the mail today and what is in it!?! ANOTHER letter from EC, enclosed is the same one we all recieved dated 8/5/08 letting us know about the changes....the second is a form to fill out and fax back either telling them I plan on staying enrolled or that I have decided I will not enroll at this time and to please return my application form and fee and/or enrollment. WHAT THA? Maybe I read too much into things but to me it seems that they might feel that they aren't going to be able to resolve things in GA.....otherwise why would they already be offering the $75 app fee and the $895 enrollment fee back to us? I'm CPNE eligible! I have already spent $2000 testing.....
They keep bringing up the safety issue as far as denying licensure. So are they implying that prior trained paramedics and LPNs are somehow more unsafe than generic RNs or RNs that go to traditional schools. If we, paramedics and LPNs, are so "unsafe" why are we heavily utilized in the field? I don't know of any paramedic and LPN programs that would knowingly allow "unsafe" individuals complete their program and graduate.
How do they determine what is safe? Clinical learning? Clinical exams? Licensing boards? According to the NCSBN it is the licensing boards that determine the potential for safe, effective, competent nursing practice, and I think they may be onto something. I couldn't agree more with their stance that the NCLEX-RN is THE determinant of the potential for safe nursing practice. The NCLEX-RN pass rates are as follows:
Excelsior College, 2003-2006: 89.56%
Georgia Schools of Nursing Grads, 2003-2006: 87.42%
U.S. National Average, 2003-2007: 86.48%
Foreign Graduates, Initial Attempt, 2007: 52.0%
Foreign Graduates, 2nd Attempt, 2007: 25.7%
So, we have people out there who say that EC grads could be unsafe. We have others who say that the answer to the nursing shortage is to grant work visas to 60,000 foreign-educated nurses who would be granted a license to practice without having to pass a clinical competency exam, such as the CPNE. Again, the NCSBN says that the NCLEX-RN is THE benchmark by which all should be measured. Anyone disagree with the NCSBN?
I have verified these stats with EC, the State of GA, and NCSBN. I realize I have posted similar stats before, but I was unable to compare EC and GA for the exact same time period until today.
. When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
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They keep bringing up the safety issue as far as denying licensure. So are they implying that prior trained paramedics and LPNs are somehow more unsafe than generic RNs or RNs that go to traditional schools. If we, paramedics and LPNs, are so "unsafe" why are we heavily utilized in the field? I don't know of any paramedic and LPN programs that would knowingly allow "unsafe" individuals complete their program and graduate.