Published Sep 27, 2017
treeye
127 Posts
I love hospital work and trying to set up NP clinical with hospitalists in the hospital I work. The hospital is a small rural hospital and the hospitalists are in partnership with a big hospital. I tried to reach the administrator for their group for the past month and finally got to meet with her but she has to check with our HR director for the affiliation agreement and will call me today (of course she did not). I am not sure whether she is just passing the buck or not. The HR director is on leave but the front desk lady has been working on the affiliation agreement for the past month but nothing has been finished.
I have to start clinical in two weeks and I'm so worried and sick to my stomach that I want to cry. I am thinking about reaching the executive director overseeing HR department, do you think it will help? any advices and recommendations for improving the process appreciated.
blondy2061h, MSN, RN
1 Article; 4,094 Posts
I wouldn't go above her. I would contact her again while simultaneously working on finding an alternative group.
Dodongo, APRN, NP
793 Posts
I just don't understand how programs can make this your job? Once you find an NP/MD willing to precept, it should be up to the school to set up an affiliation agreement and hammer out the details. How they can expect you to do everything like this is beyond me. NP schools are failing their students.
AnnieNP, MSN, NP
540 Posts
I have been a Preceptor for 8 years, and the schools have always done the agreements with me, not the student. Wishing you the best. I do wish more NPs would be Preceptors.
BostonFNP, APRN
2 Articles; 5,582 Posts
It is unclear, have you had confirmation that the hospitalist group is willing to take you or not? The admin assistant may be doing the paperwork but that is just one of the steps that needs to be done. You need to make sure you have a firm confirmation and if not you really need to start pushing hard to find another placement ASAP with only two weeks left.
I precept a fair number of students and I always work through a clinical coordinator not the student his/herself and I just finished the paperwork for students for Summer 2018. You should be working on placements at least a semester out.
This is my first semester and I've learned my lesson.
I was told that I need an ok from the executive administrator, she oversees all doctors and hirings, obviously clinical placement. The problem is that she is so busy that it's hard to reach her. Call it bad luck, the HR director is on leave and the associate that is working for the form is completely useless. The form is still not done after 4 weeks.
I am meeting with my nursing CNO today, hopefully she can help me.
sigh...
It is unclear, have you had confirmation that the hospitalist group is willing to take you or not? The admin assistant may be doing the paperwork but that is just one of the steps that needs to be done. You need to make sure you have a firm confirmation and if not you really need to start pushing hard to find another placement ASAP with only two weeks left. I precept a fair number of students and I always work through a clinical coordinator not the student his/herself and I just finished the paperwork for students for Summer 2018. You should be working on placements at least a semester out.
This is my first semester and I've learned my lesson.I was told that I need an ok from the executive administrator, she oversees all doctors and hirings, obviously clinical placement. The problem is that she is so busy that it's hard to reach her. Call it bad luck, the HR director is on leave and the associate that is working for the form is completely useless. The form is still not done after 4 weeks.I am meeting with my nursing CNO today, hopefully she can help me.sigh...
Honestly, start making other plans quick. I am on the hospital medical staff and it took more than 6 months to get the hospital to OK me bringing students from my clinic to the hospital, and that's with me as an active staff member actively working on it.
The CNO may be able to act as an intermediary and move things along, however, two weeks is a very tight time frame to be taking that gamble.
lhflanurseNP, APRN
737 Posts
You do not mention...does it HAVE to be in the hospital setting?
thank you for all the advices. No, the clinical does not need to be done in a hospital, but I love hospital work and the I know that the hospitalist that agrees to precept me is a very good teacher, that's why I have worked so hard for this opportunity.
I did call 6-7 PCP to try to set up clinical,the doctors all knows me from the hospital but there is only one office that sounds promising. Surprisingly I got an email from the executive administrator with the approval and HR has sent to the affiliation agreement to my school as of Friday. I was told that there might be some time needed to finalize that agreement but the contract specialist at my school promised me he will move it along as fast as he could.
Now I can proceed as soon as the agreement is through, I was told that it may take up to 4 weeks. Not sure what I need to tell the PCP office when they call me back on Monday...
Set up the PCP office for your next semester!!!! I already have students lined up for Spring and Summer 2018.
ednurse17, BSN, MSN, RN, NP
56 Posts
I live in NC. I am currently going through the FNP program through Herzing. I CANNOT find a preceptor. I have contacted physicians in the hospital group I work at and everyone says NO. I need to find someone! Anyone have any suggestions? Is it just brick and mortar schools that set up preceptors for you?
PaulshoeRN
18 Posts
I was listening to a podcast (the Nurse Practitioner Money Show) and Chris had a great idea. If you use Typhon (or other charting programs), there is an area where you can look at ALL the providers who have been approved for precepting (it may even go back a little ways). Reach out to people from the list as they may require less paperwork because they are already approved. Just an idea, hope it helps! paul
The Nurse Practitioner Money Show by Chris Woods on Apple Podcasts