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"Freebirth" - Dangerous Movement is Placing Expectant Mothers and Their Babies in Danger

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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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This morning, I read with disbelief an article about "freebirthing," a movement for women to have babies with absolutely no medical professional present.  While home birth has been around for a long time, this movement goes even further, claiming that even the presence of Midwife is bad.  They encourage women to even go give birth in the wilderness.

Below are 2 links to articles about women who did this, and lost their babies:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/she-wanted-freebirth-no-doctors-online-groups-convinced-her-it-n1140096

https://www.thedailybeast.com/she-wanted-a-freebirth-at-home-when-the-baby-died-the-attacks-began

Safe options for women who desire a less "institutional" approach to childbirth include:

  • At home birth with a Certified Nurse Midwife
  • Birth center - many of these are lovely and have excellent safety and quality
  • "Baby friendly" hospitals that have wings set up like a birth center and encourage use of "natural" methods as much as is safe

It is chilling and infuriating that social media is leading to rise of this sort of dangerous practice.

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Daisy4RN has 20 years experience and specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

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Agree, it is sad that people are just listening to total strangers and basing their medical care on their "expertise". I get how people want to avoid the hospital but we need some common sense. I think social media also tends to stir people up so they have a warped sense of reality. I believe someone in one of those articles stated abuse in the hospital, I dont know what happened but I do know people have unrealistic expectations of what to expect from staff etc while in the hospital.

Just sad though that these women lost their babies!

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I would say OK Darwin Award time but I feel bad for the babies who get no say  

 

Also pretty sure any one of us could start some random unscientific movement and bored house moms would hop on board and try it.

 

 

Sad!

 

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ruby_jane has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.

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Oh my heart. 

When I was pregnant with Ruby Jane, Junior I wanted to find a practice that had a midwife option. This was in the crunchy granola Pacific Northwest.

Guess what? In the practices with midwives, the midwives had no hospital privileges. So who would deliver RJJ? In reality (at that time, RJJ is 20 now) the midwives were ARNPs who were adjuncts to the physicians. Which I think is smart and clever.

I was 33 when I got pregnant, and turned 34 midway, so I became a "high risk" pregnancy literally overnight, and it was pointed out that none of the midwives had the ability to deal with my "high risk" self.

AND what all I thought I wanted in my carefully detailed birth plan went out the window when the contractions started for reals. I loved the anesthesiologist (she was pregnant herself and came to see the baby). I loved the lactation consultant who came to my bedside (and followed me for the first month with as many visits as I wanted to make to her). I got the heck out of the hospital 19 hours later and recuperated at home with all the things I wanted around me.

Someone said to me:  Your birth plan is nice but what is the most important is that you deliver a healthy baby. I wish someone would say that to these women who reach out to each other for comfort on the internets. 

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FullGlass has 2 years experience as a BSN, MSN, NP and specializes in Adult and Geriatric Primary Care.

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What gets me is that when a woman becomes pregnant, she can visit different birthing facilities in her area to choose the one she likes and get classes through them.  For a home birth, I'm assuming the expectant mother could talk to different CNMs to find the one she is most comfortable with.

As a student nurse, my L&D rotation was in a "baby friendly" hospital considered the best in the city for L&D.  The L&D ward looked like a nice hotel, with big beautiful rooms.  When a laboring mother came in, she went into her room, and was attended by experienced L&D nurses.  When delivery was imminent, or if there were any issues, an OB was notified and would come in.  The moms were treated very well.  This hospital tried to do everything "natural" and did now allow "convenience" C-sections.  I have also visited birth centers run by CNMs that were similar and had great safety records.  They also had an agreement with nearby hospitals if an emergency occurred.

I just don't understand how any expectant mother would not place the life and health of her baby first.  

Even in "primitive" societies, laboring mothers are attended by the equivalent of a midwife, as well as by women who have given birth.

And going into the wilderness????  What are we, wolves?

Sadly, more Darwin Award candidates

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21 minutes ago, FullGlass said:

What gets me is that when a woman becomes pregnant, she can visit different birthing facilities in her area to choose the one she likes and get classes through them.  For a home birth, I'm assuming the expectant mother could talk to different CNMs to find the one she is most comfortable with.

As a student nurse, my L&D rotation was in a "baby friendly" hospital considered the best in the city for L&D.  The L&D ward looked like a nice hotel, with big beautiful rooms.  When a laboring mother came in, she went into her room, and was attended by experienced L&D nurses.  When delivery was imminent, or if there were any issues, an OB was notified and would come in.  The moms were treated very well.  This hospital tried to do everything "natural" and did now allow "convenience" C-sections.  I have also visited birth centers run by CNMs that were similar and had great safety records.  They also had an agreement with nearby hospitals if an emergency occurred.

I just don't understand how any expectant mother would not place the life and health of her baby first.  

Even in "primitive" societies, laboring mothers are attended by the equivalent of a midwife, as well as by women who have given birth.

And going into the wilderness????  What are we, wolves?

Sadly, more Darwin Award candidates

The internet is a dangerous tool when wielded by the ignorant

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The internet has no gatekeepers and it’s scary-easy to create an echo chamber of your own liking to support anything you like and shut out the nay sayers.

For instance, look at the sites promoting anorexia, or actively encouraging suicide to teens having a rough time?  At sites supposedly to discuss social anxiety that devolve into encouraging people not to work on their confidence, but instead how they’re just Very Special People who are mistreated by an outside world that unfairly expects them to do things like...make eye contact.

I hate censorship, but these are the types of cases that remind us why other media started having gatekeepers to begin with.

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Emergent has 25 years experience.

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Humans beings are highly intelligent compared to animals. Evolution caused the cranim to enlarge along with all that brainpower.

Two side effects of that are a) childbirth is more risky and b) humans are intelligent enough to lower that risk by having members of the society specialize in helping with childbirth.

 

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Undercat has 41 years experience as a BSN, MSN, CRNA and specializes in Retired.

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Nature constantly culls the herds.  As humans become less engaged with reasoning, it is only logical that they will be culled before the rest.  We don't need more mothers in human society that makes dangerously bad decisions for their offspring .  Sad but the logical consequence of bad decisions.   Our state still allows lady midwives but keeps no statistics on them (!) so they roam freely to deliver babies at home with a minuscule amount of nursing expertise:(.  21st century America and thus still happens.

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brownbook has 35 years experience.

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I was listening to doctors discuss apgars, NRP, etc. on Doctor Radio.  They repeated they don't recommend home births BUT if you plan one, have someone there just for the baby.  Which I had never heard of or even thought of in relation to home births. 

It hit me like a lead balloon....what are mothers thinking when they have home births?  Are they believing some fantasy of wonderful happy mom, dad, holding happy smiling baby in the comfort of their home is of greater importance than their own child's health?  

Having a baby is NOT ABOUT THE MOTHER, it is about having a healthy infant.

How dare they be so self centered to  gamble with their child's life!

I shouldn't post when I'm angry 🤬.  Probably a little over the top, gotta cut back on the caffeine.

As others said, too bad the Darwin Award isn't retrograde.

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