I graduated in May, started at an LTAC on August 25th and was fired yesterday November 14th. My license is intact but I can't get unemployment since I was fired...I need another job quick. This was my first nursing job however and I don't know what to do now. I know I have to list this job in my employment history but I think it will make getting another job impossible. Are my fears real...if I put down my CNO's name and phone number will she bad mouth me and keep me from getting another job? Am I allowed to call the CNO? I was escorted off the floor by HR..am I forbidden from stepping foot on the floor again? Not that I want to go back.
When I was hired, I gave references and provided reference letters with names and contact information, but the DON did not call any of my references...I know because she told me she wasn't going to but that she had to document that she had, she filled that form out in front of me reading as she wrote "supervisor's name" called on "date" at "time".
Any hiring managers out there, would you please answer the question...if you received my resume, how would you proceed or am I automatically out of the running?
Also I read a couple of posts form other nurses in similar situations and they were adviced to seek employment in LTC and at flu shot clinics...any other suggestions? Is a dialysis clinic an option?
Thanks in advance...to those nurses out there that eat their young...please don't bite at me..there is very little left.
OP, if it's any consolation, I think many, if not most people, get fired at least once n their working lives. I was terminated for a trumped up reason. My performance reviews had always been excellent until our CNO left and a new one was hired. Unfortunately she was from my hometown and I knew her.
My dad had been the lawyer who had successfully prosecuted her eldest son for drug selling. To say that she held a grudge was massive understatement! When she saw me, her face lit up and I knew my days were numbered. I just didn't know how she'd pull it off. I began to job hunt immediately! It took that old harridan all of one week to dump me. She claimed I had been late every day and had sneaked out early twice. All I can say is to use one of my Grandma's expressions: "Bull feathers!"
My mom said that since I still had copies of every evaluation from my old CNO, I was covered. Her suggestion was to put that my new supervisor and I had "vastly differing philosophies." My mom was also a lawyer. It worked! I went to a interview, listed that as my reason for being fired, showed them copies of my old reviews, and that was all it took. I was hired.
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I actually contacted the social security office in my area and was told that employment history does not show on one's background check. Who told you it does??
First.....Why would you ask the social security office?
As someone who has hired employees for many years........When you run background checks...depending on your state....it will include a credit check. It will also show past and present employers. If you received a paycheck it may show. The problem her would be getting caught in a lie....they wont tell you but they won't hire you.
Applicants in highly regulated industries like healthcare, financial services, and childcare, to name key sectors, as well as applicants who will be obtaining professional licenses in those fields, are sometimes scrutinized more rigorously as a result of their profession. The applicant should understand that when s/he applies for licensure, the board that awards that license may have authority under state or federal law to see or know more about the individual's criminal history than if an employer of school ordered the background check. In other words, the licensing boards are not restricted by any limitations on criminal history information.
Things that can be on a background check...
1. Criminal History
Felony and misdemeanor searches can be conducted by county, state or throughout the nation. Each respective search costs an additional fee. Some states will only provide information for the past seven years. You need to check each state for its policy. Only information of public record is available. Juvenile records cannot be accessed. Bob Mather indicates that identity theft and false criminal reporting are on the increase and can appear on your BC. More about this later and what you can do about it.
2. Civil History
Similar to criminal history and includes whether the job candidate is/was a plaintiff or defendant.
3. National Wants and Warrants
If the candidate is "wanted," it will appear through the NCIC system, but this information is not frequently requested.
4. Credit Report
This is a very common item for BCs. Companies are searching for financial stability. Bankruptcies prior to seven years will not appear.
5. Social Security Reports
This will reveal where the candidate has lived for the past seven years. Name variations are frequently used to verify addresses and locations.
6. Previous Employer Verification
This is the item that makes most job seekers nervous. Almost everyone has had some form of disagreement with his or her boss. The concern centers on what the employer will say and whether they will release employment files. In most cases, because of a dramatic upsurge in lawsuits from job seekers who received false bad references, previous employers typically only confirm dates of employment. Compensation and good or bad references are not generally provided; however, that doesn't mean it is not done. A job seeker might want to consider hiring a "reference check" company to verify what previous employers are saying.
7. Drug Tests
Approximately 15 to 20 percent of all BCs include a drug test. BC companies typically contract with local medical clinics to conduct the test. It can be expensive, so it is not done in all cases. In most cases, the job requirements determine if a drug test is necessary, particularly for anyone operating machinery or a motor vehicle. Executives are also frequently screened for drugs.
8. Reference Verification
The employer or BC firm will contact references provided by the job candidate. Typically, the questions are very specific regarding job performance as opposed to personal or private information. They rarely contact anyone other than the designated references provided by the candidate.
9. Education
The BC will verify attendance, majors, degrees, certifications and dates earned. This has become a common BC item as a result of overwhelming falsification by job candidates. We have all seen news reports of leading politicians, executives, teachers and celebrities who have falsified their education. Here is a tip: Job candidates without a formal degree should not waste their money on the phony degree or certification programs where you pay a fee to get a degree based on experience. Be honest about your education. If you believe you need additional education, enroll in an accredited school. Your efforts to complete or enhance your education will definitely be viewed positively.
10. Driving History
A common and almost mandatory BC item for people required to operate a motor vehicle. They are checking for license status, holder, dates of issuance and expiration, violations, suspensions, or other actions.
Esme12: "As someone who has hired employees for many years" Do you really mean to say that every employer one has "recieved a check from" (and I hope that's all of my employers, lol) will or even COULD show up on your background check?? How and WHY would you claim that?! It won't come up on your background check if you don't list them as a previous employer. I contacted the SS office because they issue our SSNs and would know what our SSN is authorized to be used for according to law. Some of the info you mentioned, such as criminal history and credit score can be obtained by using a simple, prospective employee authorized background check. A previous employer, unless you have sued them or vice versa(hence the civil history), would not appear.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
I graduated in May, started at an LTAC on August 25th and was fired yesterday November 14th. My license is intact but I can't get unemployment since I was fired...I need another job quick. This was my first nursing job however and I don't know what to do now. I know I have to list this job in my employment history but I think it will make getting another job impossible. Are my fears real...if I put down my CNO's name and phone number will she bad mouth me and keep me from getting another job? Am I allowed to call the CNO? I was escorted off the floor by HR..am I forbidden from stepping foot on the floor again? Not that I want to go back.
When I was hired, I gave references and provided reference letters with names and contact information, but the DON did not call any of my references...I know because she told me she wasn't going to but that she had to document that she had, she filled that form out in front of me reading as she wrote "supervisor's name" called on "date" at "time".
Any hiring managers out there, would you please answer the question...if you received my resume, how would you proceed or am I automatically out of the running?
Also I read a couple of posts form other nurses in similar situations and they were adviced to seek employment in LTC and at flu shot clinics...any other suggestions? Is a dialysis clinic an option?
Thanks in advance...to those nurses out there that eat their young...please don't bite at me..there is very little left.
I've known many nurses who were fired for cause, including one who karate-kicked the screen of the Pyxis in a (successful) attempt to divert drugs and one who aborted herself in the employee bathroom, abandoning her assignment when she hemorrhaged and took herself to the ER, leaving bloody footprints all the way. Never have I known a nurse who was fired, escorted off the premises and banned from every showing up there again. My question is why were you fired? I'm guessing it was for a good reason. That reason may have a lot more to do with your circumstances than vague generic questions we can answer.
Was your offense so egregious that the Board of Nursing is a concern?
I was concerned because I am a new nurse, period. I felt really bad and was scared. I did nothing criminal and I didn't put my patients in danger. One of the reasons given for my dismissal was that I take too long to document - my shift was 7p - 7a. I usually left 1-2 hrs after. The patient-staff ratio was 7:1 and we did paper documentation. I wasn't always the last nurse to go home. Now that I've had time to process, I see my faults but I don't feel like I should have lost my job. I was fired by the new CNO; she was there for one week when she let me know I was not doing well. Two weeks later she fired me. She said it was based on performance. The old CNO who hired me has agreed to be my point of contact and has offered to help me any way she can.
I hope those reading this post don't share Ruby Vee's opinion...I'm biased but I don't think everyone fired, is fired for a good reason.
I have received unemployment after being fired in the past. fill out the ifnormation (ours is online) and see... worst they can do is deny you, but don't thorw that out!
There is a nursing home in my city that is ALWAYS firing their nurses for any little thing. They pay very well so nurses do try to get a job at that facility. However, they had fired so many nurses that they ran out of nurses and were desperate for help. So what did they do? They were forced to re-hire some of the nurses that they had fired in the past so they could have nurses.
At my place of employment they will escort any employee they fire or suspend out of the building no matter what the reason. A nurse was fired for making a med error (the patient was not harmed but family was talking lawsuit) and they waited until he arrived for his morning shift and escorted him out of the building in front of everyone. It's pretty humiliating if you ask me.
Esme12: "As someone who has hired employees for many years" Do you really mean to say that every employer one has "recieved a check from" (and I hope that's all of my employers, lol) will or even COULD show up on your background check?? How and WHY would you claim that?! It won't come up on your background check if you don't list them as a previous employer. I contacted the SS office because they issue our SSNs and would know what our SSN is authorized to be used for according to law. Some of the info you mentioned, such as criminal history and credit score can be obtained by using a simple, prospective employee authorized background check. A previous employer, unless you have sued them or vice versa(hence the civil history), would not appear.
Have you ever seen a copy of a background check performed for employment purposes? What if the person you asked at the social security office has no idea what they're talking about? There are different ranges of competencies in every field, so it's possible the person you spoke to might not really know. For example, in California an applicant has the option of receiving a copy of the background check that was received by the employer. They have to check off a checkbox on the employment application if they wish to receive one. I've received one on myself and the background report showed jobs I held in college that I never list on any employment application because they are irrelevant. I have nursing experience as an LVN, so why would I include the department store I worked in for 8 months 10 years ago or the tutoring company that somehow still shows as my current place of employment even though I haven't taken a single tutoring case in 7 years? I don't. Yet there they are listed on my background report as clear as day.
Who do you think GETS unemployment? It's for those who were fired/laid off from employment. When you QUIT a job, that's when UC is not a guarantee...
In my state you can't get unemployment if you haven't earned the required amounts in previous quarters that qualify you. In my case it was like the three quarters of the previous year, when I happened to be a new grad, unemployed and job searching. It is a huge fallacy that unemployment benefits are available for everyone. Simply not true. If you were in school the last few years and not employed with significant earnings, chances are high there's no $$$ for you. Maybe it's better where you live. I hope so.
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OP, if it's any consolation, I think many, if not most people, get fired at least once n their working lives. I was terminated for a trumped up reason. My performance reviews had always been excellent until our CNO left and a new one was hired. Unfortunately she was from my hometown and I knew her.
My dad had been the lawyer who had successfully prosecuted her eldest son for drug selling. To say that she held a grudge was massive understatement! When she saw me, her face lit up and I knew my days were numbered. I just didn't know how she'd pull it off. I began to job hunt immediately! It took that old harridan all of one week to dump me. She claimed I had been late every day and had sneaked out early twice. All I can say is to use one of my Grandma's expressions: "Bull feathers!"
My mom said that since I still had copies of every evaluation from my old CNO, I was covered. Her suggestion was to put that my new supervisor and I had "vastly differing philosophies." My mom was also a lawyer. It worked! I went to a interview, listed that as my reason for being fired, showed them copies of my old reviews, and that was all it took. I was hired.
Good luck and hugs.