Fear and Anxiety

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

(1) We don't have an "ED psych unit". If you're referring to admissions they'd be screened before getting admitted.

(2) Those charts look a lot better than New York's charts. We will be fine.

[emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

8 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

(1) We don't have an "ED psych unit". If you're referring to admissions they'd be screened before getting admitted.

(2) Those charts look a lot better than New York's charts. We will be fine.

1) I didn’t mean you treating pts, I meant you actually seeing what the ED staff was doing & what covid pts look like.

2) I hope you’re right.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

You mean at a medical hospital?

[JadedCPN, BSN, RN]

12 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

(1) We don't have an "ED psych unit". If you're referring to admissions they'd be screened before getting admitted.

(2) Those charts look a lot better than New York's charts. We will be fine.

Of course we'll be fine. But that doesn't mean that certain precautions shouldn't be taken to help get us to that point of "fine," nor does it mean that being concerned as a society makes us hypochondriacs as you implied.

[FNPDreams, MSN, APRN, NP]

15 hours ago, InTheLongRun said:

I see things like that and I often feel this country is just cursed.

Also, if people had spent any time in Elmhurst Queens, the original epicenter in NY it would put to bed this myth that only little old folks, or obese trainwrecks are the only one's getting sick and dying. it is a first and second generation hub filled with people from India, Pakistan and South America. They aren't overweight and hypertensive; they're vegetarian, or predominantly so and they probably walked more in a week than most burbians do in six months.

My daughter’s 21 year old friend died last week. There have been MANY younger folks dying from this in the Northeast. It’s really sad.

[Guest219794]

15 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

A false equivalence. You not wearing a mask is nowhere near as dangerous to the public as drinking and driving. Enough is enough. We cannot keep catering to the rest of society forever. By next month people will stop wearing masks altogether. Which is great in my book. This is the land of the FREE and if you want to wear a mask for the rest of your life that is your choice. Individual liberty is sacrosanct here.

I think the comparison to drinking and driving was not that these are equivalent risks. But you know that. The idea is that our government frequently restricts personal behavior when that behavior might negatively impact others. It is an essential function of a non totalitarian, non fascist government. Individual liberty is always weighed against public safety.

Vehicle inspections, building codes are some common examples. As are laws that you need to wear clothing in public. Nobody ever died from seeing somebody's junk, yet we accept that this form of personal expression is curtailed legally. With the force of government. Possible fines, etc.

But, you know this.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

2 minutes ago, JadedCPN said:

Of course we'll be fine. But that doesn't mean that certain precautions shouldn't be taken to help get us to that point of "fine," nor does it mean that being concerned as a society makes us hypochondriacs as you implied.

We've done more than enough at this point. Apparently the economy collapsing and having meat and other food shortages isn't sacrifice enough for some people. Time to move on with our lives already. Corona corona corona. We have other issues, too.

[A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN]

1 minute ago, hherrn said:

I think the comparison to drinking and driving was not that these are equivalent risks. But you know that. The idea is that our government frequently restricts personal behavior when that behavior might negatively impact others. It is an essential function of a non totalitarian, non fascist government. Individual liberty is always weighed against public safety.

Vehicle inspections, building codes are some common examples. As are laws that you need to wear clothing in public. Nobody ever died from seeing somebody's junk, yet we accept that this form of personal expression is curtailed legally. With the force of government. Possible fines, etc.

But, you know this.

LOL yeah "the force of government"... like cops are going to arrest and incarcerate people for not wearing masks, especially while there's a movement now to free most non-violent inmates from prison as it is. People that worried should quit trying to be control freaks on others' lives and quarantine themselves.

[InTheLongRun]

52 minutes ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

It's completely relevant. How do you put a friggin' kid with zero legal (let alone judicial) experience or education as the head of the most powerful position in the 4th largest city in America? I voted straight-ticket Dem in 2018 but whenever she's on the ballot I sure as heck will be voting for whoever can replace her.

So your graphs basically show that forcible masking is having no effect at curbing Corona growth. Thank you.

I suggest your continuous political snipings are out of scope, however you actually voted.

[Uroboros, APRN]

I have to say this is one of the more interesting threads currently. Gives some excellent insight to the current debates of thought among front line workers. But if we continue taking away the liberties this country was founded upon where does it stop? Now personally I'm in full support of everyone wearing a mask until we figure this thing out. I work in the busiest COVID collection center in my region, and helped start the first series of drive through centers in my state. So that being said, I still witness first hand a loose variety of how many patients show up wearing a mask (even for their scheduled COVID test), of course before our front door Gestapo guest services force one on them, which I support also, without machine guns. Seems if the Kardashians are wearing a mask or not the night before dictates the trend more than anything.

Seems also the public find it more than acceptable to be forced to wear a mask in healthcare settings, but Walmart, (which if far more contaminated) is a safe place. And this is really a sign of herd mentality, denial, ignorance, or other psychological profundity which is more our fault as educators.

Even cheap gas stations post "no shoes, no shirt, no service". We may be quickly approaching an era of "no mask no service" signs, and that would be far more effective and American than some authoritarian legal fodder that will go bipartisan debate at every CNN or Fox commercial break, not to mention every nurse break room across American (which I liken to purgatory alla Dante's Inferno).

Want to get peoples attention, socially condition their Red Bull and McChicken privileges. But the moment we start lining the streets with armed guards and lining up Americans to wear anything, even a mask that may or may not help, we have become the Trump Gulag, and we are close enough to that hell already economically.

[Ben_Dover]

Wait A Minute: The Word Pandemic -- is Global, No?

Why Do I Have A Feeling That This Covid Only Pertains In The U.S.

Are You All Missing Something? Cause I am not!

There's this one member or poster here with a weird and off-balance mindset and his or her posts have been very disturbing.

You all can figure this out! ?

[emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B]

8 hours ago, A Hit With The Ladies said:

You mean at a medical hospital?

Yeah. So if you’re in dedicated stand-alone psych facility, then disregard as my question is making the same mistakes we swore we'd never make again. (Props to jerry jeff).