FDA to grant Pfizer full approval next week

[klone]

So y'all going to run out now and get it, now that it's no longer an "experimental, unapproved drug"?

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Yeah, didn't think so.

[jive turkey]

13 minutes ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Try being polite. I am doing what you appear to be doing: Playing devil's advocate. It's what you have been doing on a lot of these threads.

 I can assure you I'm being polite however understand that the tone of some of my responses are reflective of how I'm being approached. 

 I've advocated for people being respectful of having a difference of opinion not attacking those who have concerns about the vaccine. There's no devil in that

[toomuchbaloney]

4 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

 I can assure you I'm being polite however understand that the tone of some of my responses are reflective of how I'm being approached. 

 I've advocated for people being respectful of having a difference of opinion not attacking those who have concerns about the vaccine. There's no devil in that

Challenging beliefs and thinking is not a personal attack.  

[SmilingBluEyes]

20 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Challenging beliefs and thinking is not a personal attack.  

Exactly. Thank you for saying it better than I did.

[HarleyvQuinn, MSN, RN, NP]

On 8/20/2021 at 7:18 PM, Lunah said:

This is going to be interesting for the military — an approved vaccine is a mandatory vaccine. If course, anyone who has been in for a minute remembers the anthrax vaccine. 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/06/17/troops-who-refused-anthrax-vaccine-paid-a-high-price/

 Yep. Anthrax vaccine is still required for deployment. So is Small Pox, which actually has a pretty significant adverse reaction profile compared to most vaccines out there. Has to be repeated every 10 years, too, for full effectiveness. Hopefully, we never have to implement that throughout the public again. I can just imagine the outrage. 

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

4 hours ago, HarleyvQuinn said:

 Yep. Anthrax vaccine is still required for deployment. So is Small Pox, which actually has a pretty significant adverse reaction profile compared to most vaccines out there. Has to be repeated every 10 years, too, for full effectiveness. Hopefully, we never have to implement that throughout the public again. I can just imagine the outrage. 

I got both prior to deployment. The smallpox injection site was difficult to care for while I was initially deployed. 

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

On 8/20/2021 at 7:02 PM, jive turkey said:

The argument you may want to prepare for is the numerous FDA approved drugs that were later recalled. 

How many of those were given literally billions of times over a period of over a year before their adverse effects manifested?

[jive turkey]

4 hours ago, Horseshoe said:

How many of those were given literally billions of times over a period of over a year before their adverse effects manifested?

Why are you asking me that? 

 Maybe you misunderstood. I wasn't saying that argument was coming from me. But I'm sure it will be made

[toomuchbaloney]

On 8/24/2021 at 11:05 AM, jive turkey said:

Why are you asking me that? 

 Maybe you misunderstood. I wasn't saying that argument was coming from me. But I'm sure it will be made

When it is, I'm sure you will sympathize with the thinking when it's offered here and then accuse members of bullying when the flawed reasoning is exposed.  At least that's what the evidence suggests.

[HarleyvQuinn, MSN, RN, NP]

On 8/24/2021 at 5:51 AM, Lunah said:

I got both prior to deployment. The smallpox injection site was difficult to care for while I was initially deployed. 

Same. Anthrax vaccine was a bit more painful than Tetorifice, but I didn't have any other issues with it. Typhoid was no big deal at all. 

 Small Pox vaccination requires a lot of follow-up care of the vaccination site. The other RNs in our CSH spent a lot of time counseling, reassuring, and helping the non-clinical part of our group with it after we all visited CRC. A lot of people freaked out during the blister phase, with lymphadenopathy, and had questions on how to care for it. One person, unfortunately, chose to cover it with duct tape and ended up with multiple satellite lesions along her arm. It was a mess. This is why I'd worry if it was needed for public implementation again.