Does the shot mess with your DNA?

[Floor_Nurse]

The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it. 

The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed. 

Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.

[MeganMN]

I never said I believed him, I was just presenting a video that states theories that the original poster can research.  We all have to do our own research, and, in my opinion, it is good to know both sides of an issue.  It is difficult to dispute an argument that you do not understand, so I try to look at all the information out there and make my own decision based on what I see/read/study/know.  

And, for the record, I also think that Dr Osterholm also has some excellent videos out there. And he is quite 'credible'.  I like to seek out information that is easy for me to understand and explain.  The video that I referenced had information in it that helped me to better understand how the vaccines work and how our immune systems work.  

[macawake, MSN]

1 hour ago, MeganMN said:

I know, I know- many of his ideas have been 'fact-checked' but it is always good to see things from different points of view, even if you do not agree.

 

Why on earth would it be a good thing to listen to someone who’s already been fact-checked and found to be wrong?

I haven’t read your link because I’ve previously read about this man. He’s wrong. A Covid vaccine is far from pointless. The vaccines save lives. 

By the way, the stuff about ”decimating world population” screams tinfoil hat. Perhaps you think he’s worth your time. I don’t. 
 

7 minutes ago, MeganMN said:

I never said I believed him, I was just presenting a video that states theories that the original poster can research.  We all have to do our own research, and, in my opinion, it is good to know both sides of an issue.  It is difficult to dispute an argument that you do not understand, so I try to look at all the information out there and make my own decision based on what I see/read/study/know.  

Both sides? Facts vs fiction?

You didn’t have to say that you believe him. The fact that you chose to post a link and urge people to ”see things from different points of view”, tells me everything I need to know.

[MunoRN, RN]

1 hour ago, MeganMN said:

World-renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi gives an excellent interview as to his concerns with MRNA vaccines for anyone who is interested in seeing the other points of view.  Just food for thought.  

https://thenewamerican.com/covid-shots-to-decimate-world-population-warns-Dr-bhakdi/

I know, I know- many of his ideas have been 'fact-checked' but it is always good to see things from different points of view, even if you do not agree.

 

I think you're confusing the term "world-renowned" with "infamous" or "notorious".  Although he is "renowned" in a way since he recently won an award; The Goldenes Brett which is awarded annually to the "most astonishing pseudoscientific nuisance".

I'm also not sure "food for thought" is the correct term either.  How the mind of someone detached from reason operates, along with their general disregard for the harm it could cause others is intriguing, in a morbid curiosity sort of way, similar to finding it fascinating how the mind of a cannibalistic murderer works, but it's not "food for thought", no pun intended.

[hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I]

No

[NVBurch]

To have been "fact checked" is a badge of honor in this day of censorship, an indicator the speaker is revealing an uncomfortable truth. Maybe skeptics will listen to a former V.P. of Pfizer, a vaccine research and developer:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

5 hours ago, MeganMN said:

World-renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi gives an excellent interview as to his concerns with MRNA vaccines for anyone who is interested in seeing the other points of view.  Just food for thought.  

https://thenewamerican.com/covid-shots-to-decimate-world-population-warns-Dr-bhakdi/

I know, I know- many of his ideas have been 'fact-checked' but it is always good to see things from different points of view, even if you do not agree.

 

This website does not raise any red flags for you?  It's a bunch of loonies!

[MunoRN, RN]

1 hour ago, NVBurch said:

To have been "fact checked" is a badge of honor in this day of censorship, an indicator the speaker is revealing an uncomfortable truth. Maybe skeptics will listen to a former V.P. of Pfizer, a vaccine research and developer:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death

It would seem more likely that countering demonstrably false misinformation with facts reveals that it is misinformation that is being fact checked, not "an uncomfortable truth".  

The problem with Dr. Michael Yeadon's claims and conspiracy theories is that he offers no supporting evidence, even when there is clear evidence to refute his claims.

There is no evidence the vaccines have secret components that are designed to depopulate the world, and it it's not even a tantalizing conspiracy theory since you would have to believe that BigPharma would be all for drastically reducing their revenue.

Despite his claims that vaccines have never served any purpose, they are in fact useful in stopping and preventing epidemics, not sure why these even is worthy of debate.

Viruses do in fact mutate, each lineage mutates every 20 days, this is how we trace the spread of viruses, and variants of different virus species is what gives us seasonal influenza, among other things.  I'm not aware of any claims that a mutation that makes Covid immune to the vaccines is guaranteed, but given that the vaccine works based on certain characteristics of the virus, it's not rocket science to realize that if that characteristic changes but the virus remains virulent, that's going to be a problem.

And there's nothing new about the proposed boosters, or "top-up" doses, not being required to go through a completely separate approval process, that's true of all other vaccines.

I'm not clear what your position is, to be "fact checked" doesn't mean anything apparently because facts aren't relevant, yet you then offer the "facts" that you prefer.  So should facts matter or not? 

[MeganMN]

1 hour ago, subee said:

This website does not raise any red flags for you?  It's a bunch of loonies!

This is the problem.  When a site that is heavily promoting Libertarian, Conservative, and Christian values is seen as looney.  And people are criticized for questioning the narrative, as fed to us by the same bodies that said I could wear a bandana and be okay.  

[toomuchbaloney]

5 minutes ago, MeganMN said:

This is the problem.  When a site that is heavily promoting Libertarian, Conservative, and Christian values is seen as looney.  And people are criticized for questioning the narrative, as fed to us by the same bodies that said I could wear a bandana and be okay.  

Why do conservatives want to promote and believe unproven opinion or sentiment? Hopefully, if your patients repeat pseudoscience to you, you correct them with scientifically sound information and not the nonsense you share with us.  

This is the problem, conservatives are comfortable cherry picking what they believe from media sites that offer up crazy nonsense and then act offended when the nonsense is noticed by others. 

[CABGpatch_RN, BSN]

12 minutes ago, MeganMN said:

This is the problem.  When a site that is heavily promoting Libertarian, Conservative, and Christian values is seen as looney.  And people are criticized for questioning the narrative, as fed to us by the same bodies that said I could wear a bandana and be okay.  

Exactly what values do dangerous, misleading information and lies promote?

[MeganMN]

5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

This is the problem, conservatives (insert liberals) are comfortable cherry picking what they believe from media sites that offer up crazy nonsense and then act offended when the nonsense is noticed by others. 

I feel the same.  I will agree to disagree. And yes, I keep my opinions to myself at work, and try to educate my patients and be respectful of their values and beliefs system. I should probably keep my opinions to myself here as well.  It isn't productive. 

[HRoark64, BSN]

50 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Why do conservatives want to promote and believe unproven opinion or sentiment? Hopefully, if your patients repeat pseudoscience to you, you correct them with scientifically sound information and not the nonsense you share with us.  

This is the problem, conservatives are comfortable cherry picking what they believe from media sites that offer up crazy nonsense and then act offended when the nonsense is noticed by others. 

Last I checked the only pseudoscience being cherry picked was by the MSM. Imagine a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to know if you’re carrying it. Then telling people to stay indoors...because everyone lives in a HEPA filtered, negative pressure house, right? Ah, and masks. Where are all the biohazard receptacles to properly dispose of such infectious material? Then as soon as a new administration is in, the WHO admits that PCR testing with >30x amplification is useless and drops it to the low 20’s range and POOF...the vaccines are working!! 
 

Just remember the same people pushing solutions and the same media selling them to you also said Iraq had WMD’s and Afghans in caves wanted to kill you for how good you have it in America. Why would they lie??