Does the shot mess with your DNA?

Nurses COVID

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The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it. 

The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed. 

Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
13 hours ago, HRoark64 said:

 

Wow...lots of they and us speak.  How do you assess patients with your head that far up your butt?  Impressive.  

I find it interesting that the left - the primary anti-vax and pro-choice crowd - is now full force behind a vaccine and doesn't seem to acknowledge the right of anyone to refuse it.  Serious mental gymnastics.  

Before you throw out the right wing extremist, know that I'm neither.  If voting worked it would've been outlawed by now.  Your willingness to marginalize the thoughts, opinions, and questions of others will be the downfall of our society. 

Talk about "us and they"....I didn't realize that all "lefties" were anti-vaxxers!

So all the pro-vaxxers are righties?  

6 minutes ago, subee said:

Talk about "us and they"....I didn't realize that all "lefties" were anti-vaxxers!

So all the pro-vaxxers are righties?  

I had to think about that one as well ???

This isn't a very scientific response but I listen to ZDoggMD on facebook. Hey, he's a real doctor with real credentials and he knows what he's talking about. Check him out.

Specializes in Peds CVICU.
13 minutes ago, Tommy5677 said:

This isn't a very scientific response but I listen to ZDoggMD on facebook. Hey, he's a real doctor with real credentials and he knows what he's talking about. Check him out.

Great content! Thank you for sharing. 

Specializes in Critical Care.
On 3/29/2021 at 7:25 AM, Tommy5677 said:

ZDoggMD 

I always love it when I see ZDogg's name brought up in conversations around the web.  He is an amazing personality who knows his stuff and can make you laugh while delivering it (good bedside manner).  He's a good human being and he recognizes that nurses are the backbone of healthcare.  Back in the day, he was one of those Residents who was fun to work with even in the most difficult times including at 3am.  He got good training from all of the nurses!  LOL.

Specializes in med surg.
On 3/27/2021 at 8:56 PM, CABGpatch_RN said:

Oh for cripes sake.  You are a piece of work.  A sick sick individual.  You are able to single handedly minimize each and every individual who has been touched by this pandemic around the world - including those of your own profession.

I don't think you are capable of recognizing when someone is having a difficult time.  It's like this is all a joke to you?  After delivering awful news to a family member probably over the phone, do you giggle when you hang up.  That's how I picture you.  You probably do giggle, if not out loud, in your twisted mind.  I doubt very much that all of your co-workers sit around enjoying themselves with dark humor when it comes to your patients suffering the effects of covid.

You're just sick.  You would not last beyond a shift with me and my co-workers.  We can weed out ones like you pretty quickly.

Ayyy calm down cabg, don't blow a gasket now...it's interesting that you feel that you know how my (or anyone else that you don't know from Adam) mind works or even what I think about a particular subject..I'll just hit you with the old "nice try, wrong guy", and keep it moving. But yeah you wouldn't last a minute on my unit either..I'm sorry but in this profession, death is very relevant, death is all around...if it's too much for you, maybe you should rethink your career. Sad but true. 

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
CABGpatch_RN said:

I'm wonder if it helps anyone to know that Trump has come out and said GET the vaccine?

Well, it wouldn't help his detractors.  Hopefully people wouldn't let their personal feelings sway their decision to get vaccinated, but it seems that ship has sailed.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
LindaGracie said:

 If you personally believe that vaccines has caused the increase of autism and other medical conditions seen in children and young adults then likely you may lean away from the vaccine.

It isn't about personal belief; it's about science.  I wouldn't think much of a nurse who "personally believes vaccines cause autism".  That nonsense was foisted on the world by a discredited doctor who was looking for a pretext to sue pharmaceutical companies.  That idea has been throughly debunked and no one who has spent a week in nursing school should be perpetuating it.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
Jack Peace said:

This is a direct quote from his son, Bill Gates.

Responding to a question by Moyers on how he came to fund "reproductive issues" Gates answered, "When I was growing up, my parents were always involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it's fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that.”

Is his son making this up? He must be because you clearly know more than him in this regard. 

Check. Mate. 

If Bill Gates's dad had ever been head of Planned Parenthood this would be a matter of public record.  Serving on the board is not the same as being the head.  Bill Gates could very well be making it up, or there is a public record to support it.  According to Snopes, he wasn't.  Anyone who doesn't want to take Snopes's word for it can always track down the public record.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
6 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

It isn't about personal belief; it's about science.  I wouldn't think much of a nurse who "personally believes vaccines cause autism".  That nonsense was foisted on the world by a discredited doctor who was looking for a pretext to sue pharmaceutical companies.  That idea has been throughly debunked and no one who has spent a week in nursing school should be perpetuating it.

And I used to believe that if I left my arm dangling off my bed, the monster that lived beneath the mattress might bite my hand.   I got over that by the time I was 6 because I was able to do a reality check by then.  Perhaps Linda Gracie isn't a nurse and is under the age of 6.  

Specializes in Emergency Room.

World-renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi gives an excellent interview as to his concerns with MRNA vaccines for anyone who is interested in seeing the other points of view.  Just food for thought.  

https://thenewamerican.com/covid-shots-to-decimate-world-population-warns-Dr-bhakdi/

I know, I know- many of his ideas have been 'fact-checked' but it is always good to see things from different points of view, even if you do not agree.

 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
MeganMN said:

World-renowned German-Thai-American microbiologist Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi gives an excellent interview as to his concerns with MRNA vaccines for anyone who is interested in seeing the other points of view.  Just food for thought.  

https://thenewamerican.com/covid-shots-to-decimate-world-population-warns-Dr-bhakdi/

I know, I know- many of his ideas have been 'fact-checked' but it is always good to see things from different points of view, even if you do not agree.

When you provided scientific rationale and evidence for your thesis in college, did your mentors allow citations from discredited professionals? Should we take seriously the musings of someone who, to date, had been demonstrably wrong about covid? Or do you believe him that covid is no more of a threat than influenza or that the entire covid issue is some kind of a false alarm?

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