The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it.
The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed.
Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.
You are obviously a sceptic and should remain that way but you have to identify the sources you should be sceptical about. Or, you might arrive at the wrong conclusions.
I very much agree with this statement. Being sceptical is a good thing.
The problem that some posters in this thread seem to have is that they are sceptical of facts, science and even reality. That’s dangerous.
Shelby, hold the line! You are on target! Nice work! We are The Science.
I’m having a hard time keeping my face straight. You are as far removed from science as anyone could possibly be. You’ve provided some extremely dubious sources when attempting to support your misinformed points.
Remember the podcast I described in a previous post. That was the main bigwig of a foundation that you had referenced. Remember that I wrote that this woman thought that the origin of Covid-19 was the Wi-Fi phone systems recently installed in nursing homes (I guess nursing homes all across the globe must have changed phone systems around March 2020) in combination with sedatives/hypnotics/anti-psychotic medications...
That sounds plausible, right....?
Well what I didn’t mention last time around was how they were also discussing how those ”old computer screens that were like great big TVs” caused miscarriages. And added that was quite wellknown. Right... She then went on to say that the stillbirth rate is up during the pandemic and that she would of course say ”that’s because of the wireless technology”.
I’m sorry but if you think sources like that are worth referencing, you wouldn’t recognize science if it leapt up and bit you in your derrière.
Autism used to be 1 in 10,000 , now it's estimated at about 1 in 50 . What has changed in society since then? The volume of inoculations is much larger now than anytime in the past.
Good grief.
People eat more ice cream during summertime.
More people drown in the Summer than in the Winter months.
I just provided proof that ice cream causes drowning deaths.
Or did I....... ? ?
About five years ago I received a tetorifice booster. I also decided around that time to brush up on my rusty Russian and joined a class.
My Russian is significantly better today than it was six years ago. Who’d have thunk a tetorifice vaccine could accomplish that!?!
( ? I have no idea why s*ummer and w*inter are capitalized. I didn’t do that and I’m unable to edit the words. So some higher force appears to think that the seasons warrant BIG letters.. ).
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12 hours ago, Jack Peace said:
Shelby, don't worry, because when I read these sheeps' posts I too believe they have some form of schizophrenia. Do you see how he just turned your point around back at you and tries to say that you are the one committing medical fraud not the hospitals for covid diagnoses?!? they can spin it whatever way they want but for people who live in the real world who are open-minded and inform themselves of the legislation that has been passed concerning covid but also talk to as many people as they can and ask them questions about their experiences as well to enable an understanding of what's really going on in reality.
This is really against TOS. NO ONE called you such names. What use is this to educated and meaningful debate. READ the TOS please.
I don’t see healthy people dying from Covid. The statistics don’t support that claim.
The main risk factor for dying from Covid-19 is high age. Reading your posts I have to wonder at what age you think that human beings become dead wood? Your posts aren’t exactly brimming with compassion for those who have lost their lives and their loved ones.
On 3/23/2021 at 7:58 PM, UndecidedDuke16 said:
So, I’d disagree, and say that the statistics do support exercise and diet and sleep providing protection against Covid.
The statistics support that elderly people have a higher risk of dying from a Covid infection than a younger person. Could you provide a link to the research that shows that it’s exercise, diet and sleep that are the protective factors rather than age/not being old? Not all people who don’t have diabetes or hypertension exercise regularly, eat healthy food and get an adequate amount of sleep.
23 hours ago, UndecidedDuke16 said:
People are realizing that 99% of persons who contract Covid recover without medical intervention, and that there is not stacks of dead bodies being refrigerated in every hospital around the country, which is what the main stream media has led people to believe is happening all over the world. Newsflash. It’s not.
How did you arrive at the 99% number? CFR in the U.S. is 1.8% at the moment. The IFR is lower but it’s hard to calculate the exact rate. In my neck of the woods the majority of patients hospitalized for Covid-19 don’t die. They don’t die but they sure as heck need medical intervention. I’m assuming it’s the same in the U.S.? If that’s the case it doesn’t sound likely that 99% recover just fine without medical intervention. So I’ll have to ask you to provide a reliable source that supports the 99% claim.
Oh, and news flash... It really is happening all over the world.
One thing that I’m struck by when reading the post I just quoted, is that in my opinion you are being awfully flippant in a very ugly way when you claim that there aren’t ”stacks of dead bodies being refrigerated in every hospital around the country”. You couldn’t have worded that differently?? Save the sarcastic tone for another topic. The wording you used demonstrates callous disregard for the grief that many people are currently experiencing after having lost a loved one. In many cases without being able to be there , hold their hands and say goodbye. You are also being disrespectful to all the healthcare professionals who’ve had to witness a painful amount of suffering and death. Many of them are right here on this forum.
23 hours ago, UndecidedDuke16 said:
Covid probably also wouldn’t have been as big of an issue or topic of discussion had politicians not taken it as an opportunity for political gain.
Covid is a big issue across the world. How in your opinion have politicians used the pandemic for political gain? What exactly have they’ve gained?
Do you think that if politicians hadn’t ”taken it as an opportunity for political gain”, fewer people with severely symptomatic Covid infections would have called 911 and that less people would have died? Did the politicians do all that or was that the virus?
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On 3/22/2021 at 11:01 PM, Jack Peace said:
India Holds Bill Gates Accountable For His Vaccine Crimes
CHRISTINA ENGLAND
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By Christina England, BA Hons / October 5, 2014
As Bill Gates faces a lawsuit for the illegal testing of tribal children in India, it appears that his crimes against humanity have finally caught up with him.
A recent report published by Health Impact News has reported that the Gates Foundation has found itself facing a pending lawsuit, due to an investigation that is being carried out by the Supreme Courts of India.
Health Impact News stated:
“While fraud and corruption are revealed on almost a daily basis now in the vaccine industry, the U.S. mainstream media continues to largely ignore such stories. Outside the U.S., however, the vaccine empires are beginning to crumble, and English versions of the news in mainstream media outlets are available via the Internet.
One such country is India, where the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their vaccine empire are under fire, including a pending lawsuit currently being investigated by the India Supreme Court.” [1]
The Health Impact News article centered largely on a four-page report that was recently published by Economic Times India.
Eager to know more, I investigated their story and discovered that the World Health Organization, the Gates Foundation and two organizations funded by them, PATH (Program for Appropriate Technology in Health) and GAVI (Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization), have found themselves under fire, after a writ of petition originally submitted to the Supreme Court of India, by Kalpana Mehta, Nalini Bhanot and Dr. Rukmini Rao in 2012, was finally heard by the courts.
The petitioners submitting the petition stated:
“BMGF, PATH and WHO were criminally negligent trialling the vaccines on a vulnerable, uneducated and under-informed population school administrators, students and their parents who were not provided informed consent or advised of potential adverse effects or required to be monitored post-vaccination.” [2] [adrotate banner=”9″]
Young Tribal Girls Tested With HPV Vaccines
The Economic Times India published their report August 2014. They stated that in 2009, tests had been carried out on 16,000 tribal school children in Andhra Pradesh, India, using the human papiloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil.
According to the report written by KP Narayana Kumar, within a month of receiving the vaccine, many of the children fell ill and by 2010, five of them had died. A further two children were reported to have died in Vadodara, Gujarat, where an estimated 14,000 tribal children were vaccinated with another brand of the HPV vaccine, Cervarix, manufactured by GlaxoSmitheKline (GSK).
Shockingly, the report stated that many of the consent forms used to vaccinate the girls were signed “illegally,” either by the wardens from the hostels where many of the girls resided, or using thumbprints from illiterate parents.
This travesty was not discovered until a team of health activists from the non-government organization SAMA, an organization specializing in women’s health, decided to investigate what had been going on.
According to the report, they were shocked to discover that a total of 120 girls had been taken ill, suffering from a variety of symptoms, including “epileptic seizures, severe stomach aches, headaches and mood swings.”
The Economic Times stated:
“The Sama report also said there had been cases of early onset of menstruation following the vaccination, heavy bleeding and severe menstrual cramps among many students. The standing committee pulled up the relevant state governments for the shoddy investigation into these deaths.
It said it was disturbed to find that ‘all the seven deaths were summarily dismissed as unrelated to vaccinations without in-depth investigations …’ the speculative causes were suicides, accidental drowning in well (why not suicide?), malaria, viral infections, subarachnoid hemorrhage (without autopsy) etc.”
This information is even more shocking when you discover that the organization funding the study was none other than the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, who declared the project a total success.
Kumar wrote:
“According to the BMGF, the WHO, the International Federation of Gynaecology and Obstetrics, and the Federation of Obstetric and Gynaecological Societies of India have all recommended vaccination ‘as a proven and highly effective preventive measure for cervical cancer.’ The project used vaccines that are licensed in India and that have been administered safely around the world tens of millions of times, preventing countless cases of cervical cancer illness and death, ‘maintains a BMGF spokesperson in an emailed response (see GAVI & PHFI create incentives …’”
He continued:
“BMGF’s role in funding the controversial studies, however, has led to many healthcare activists in India voicing their apprehensions. ‘BMGF has to take full responsibility because PATH is funded by them. It is also unethical when people championing the cause of vaccines are the same ones who are also investing in vaccine development,’ said V Rukmini Rao, one of the activists who filed a writ petition before the Supreme Court in connection with the HPV vaccine studies.” [3]
Absolutely, and this is not the first time that these organizations have been caught illegally testing vaccines in developing countries.
Gates Foundation, WHO, PATH, GAVI, UNICEF Behind Chad Vaccine Disaster
In December 2012, in the small village of Gouro, Chad, Africa, situated on the edge of the Sahara Desert, five hundred children were locked into their school, threatened that if they did not agree to being force-vaccinated with a meningitis A vaccine, they would receive no further education.
These children were vaccinated without their parents’ knowledge. This vaccine was an unlicensed product still going through the third and fourth phases of testing.
Within hours, one hundred and six children began to suffer from headaches, vomiting, severe uncontrollable convulsions and paralysis. The children’s wait for a doctor began. They had to wait one full week for a doctor to arrive while the team of vaccinators proceeded to vaccinate others in the village.
When the doctor finally came, he could do nothing for the children. The team of vaccinators, upon seeing what had happened, fled the village in fear.
The original report written in a small, local newspaper called La Voix, the only newspaper to have published the original story, stated that forty children were finally transferred to a hospital in Faya and later taken by plane to two hospitals in N’Djamena, the capital city of Chad.
After being shuttled around like cattle, many of these sick, weak children were finally dumped back in their village without a diagnosis and each family was given an unconfirmed sum of £1000 by the government. No forms were signed and no documentation was seen. They were informed that their children had not suffered a vaccine injury.
However, if this were true, why would their government award each family £1000 in what has been described as hush money?
The only mainstream news channel to have highlighted the plight of these poor children was a local channel called Tchad, which filmed footage of the then-Prime Minister of Chad visiting the children in hospital.
VacTruth has copies of both reports, along with medical and government documents.
Despite this evidence and VacTruth’s detailed and extensive coverage, including highlighting television footage, once again, the vaccine program was hailed a success. To watch videos reporting the story, see the references at the end of this article. [4] [5]
The groups involved with this project were PATH, WHO, UNICEF, and the Gates Foundation. During investigations, it was discovered that the whole project was being run by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
In a press release, the Gates Foundation stated:
“MenAfriVac is a tremendous success story for the global health community. It is the first vaccine developed specifically for Africa, and it proves that global partnerships can develop and deliver high-quality, low-cost vaccines.
Ten years ago, we invested in the Meningitis Vaccine Project, an innovative model that brought together PATH, the World Health Organization, African health ministers and the Serum Institute of India today, we celebrate the result: a modern vaccine selling for less than US 50 cents per dose with the potential to end Africa’s deadly meningitis epidemics.
We believe that vaccines are one of the best buys in global health. In January, Bill and Melinda Gates called on the global community to make this the Decade of Vaccines. There is no better way to launch this decade than with a new vaccine that will improve and save lives.” [6]
VacTruth can prove otherwise.
Government Inquiry Holds GAVI Accountable for Multiple Deaths
Despite the fact the Gates Foundation call vaccines “one of the best buys in global health,” a government inquiry in Pakistan has found the complete opposite.
In 2011, the Express Tribune published a story stating that:
“ISLAMABAD: A government inquiry has found that polio vaccines for infants funded by the Global Alliance for Vaccination and Immunisation are causing deaths and disabilities in regional countries including Pakistan.
The startling revelation is part of an inquiry report prepared by the Prime Minister’s Inspection Commission (PMIC) on the working of the Expanded Programme on Immunisation (EPI). The PMIC, headed by Malik Amjad Noon, has recommended that Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani immediately suspend the administration of all types of vaccines funded by the GAVI.”
According to the Express Tribune, the main vaccinations in question were the polio vaccine and the 5-in-1 pentavelent vaccine, which were said to be responsible for the deaths and disability of a number of children in Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bhutan and Japan.
The vaccines were funded by the Global Alliance for Vaccination and Immunization (GAVI) an organization financed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Children’s Vaccine Program, the International Federation of Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Association, the Rockefeller Foundation, the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), the World Health Organization (WHO) and the World Bank.
Writing on the official report, made exclusive to the newspaper, the Express Tribune stated:
“The report states, ‘The procured vaccines are not tested in laboratories to confirm their efficacy and genuineness. This leaves room for use of spurious and counterfeit vaccines.’” [7] (emphasis added)
If this is true, then once again the Gates Foundation has been linked to mass vaccination initiatives using untested, unsafe vaccinations.
The Gates Foundation and WHO Labeled Unethical by Medical Experts
In 2012, Ramesh Shankar Mumbai, an author writing for the Pharmabiz website, reported that two medical experts from India had accused the Gates Foundation and WHO of being unethical.
In his report, Mumbai stated that Dr. Neetu Vashisht and Dr. Jacob Puliyel of the Department of Pediatrics at St. Stephens Hospital in Delhi, wrote the following information in their report in the April issue of Indian Journal of Medical Ethics.
“It was unethical for WHO and Bill Gates to flog this program when they knew 10 years back that it was never to succeed. Getting poor countries to expend their scarce resources on an impossible dream over the last 10 years was unethical.”
Pharmabiz.com reported that Dr. Vashisht and Dr. Puliyel had continued their report by stating:
“Another major ethical issue raised by the campaign is the failure to thoroughly investigate the increase in the incidence of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) in areas where many doses of vaccine were used. NPAFP is clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly.”
Pharmabiz.com continued:
“The authors noted that while India was polio-free in 2011, in the same year, there were 47500 cases of NPAFP. While data from India’s National Polio Surveillance Project showed NPAFP rate increased in proportion to the number of polio vaccine doses received, independent studies showed that children identified with NPAFP ‘were at more than twice the risk of dying than those with wild polio infection.’” [8]
The corruption and deceit by these organizations does not stop there.
The Gates Foundation Blamed for 10,000 Vaccine-Related Deaths
In 2013, yet another report named the Gates Foundation and GAVI as being responsible for multiple deaths using untested vaccinations on children from the developing world.
The report, published on the website Occupy Corporatism and written by Susanne Posel stated:
“It was found out through an investigation, that GAVI was using an untested vaccine; giving this dangerous vaccine to Pakistani children shows the lack of empathy associated with these organizations.
GAVI was blamed for the deaths of 10,000 children in Pakistan when they came in and administered polio vaccines that resulted in casualties.” [9]
As we know, GAVI is heavily funded by the Gates Foundation. [10]
So, what was the name of the organization that investigated GAVI and found them using untested polio vaccinations in Pakistan?
According to the Express Tribune article, which I referred to earlier in this article, it was none other than the Indian government, who, upon discovering the shocking truth, recommended the immediate suspension of the administration of all types of vaccines funded by GAVI. [7]
It also against TOS to post entire articles. A link and title will suffice.
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On 3/22/2021 at 11:11 PM, Jack Peace said:
UndecidedDuke is on target! That's what I have been saying about this whole scamdemic , plandemic, whatever. This is where our health and immune systems are built, through nutrition, exercise, sleep, vitamins and minerals. Any virus can kill any person if they are lacking in key vitamins and minerals for sure, hands down.
I’m having a hard time keeping my face straight. You are as far removed from science as anyone could possibly be. You’ve provided some extremely dubious sources when attempting to support your misinformed points.
Remember the podcast I described in a previous post. That was the main bigwig of a foundation that you had referenced. Remember that I wrote that this woman thought that the origin of Covid-19 was the Wi-Fi phone systems recently installed in nursing homes (I guess nursing homes all across the globe must have changed phone systems around March 2020) in combination with sedatives/hypnotics/anti-psychotic medications...
That sounds plausible, right....?
Well what I didn’t mention last time around was how they were also discussing how those ”old computer screens that were like great big TVs” caused miscarriages. And added that was quite wellknown. Right... She then went on to say that the stillbirth rate is up during the pandemic and that she would of course say ”that’s because of the wireless technology”.
I’m sorry but if you think sources like that are worth referencing, you wouldn’t recognize science if it leapt up and bit you in your derrière.
You obviously didn't listen to the whole podcast Macawake. What about the part that the 5G when connected to a fax machine, remember it's nursing homes and they still have faxes, anyway when connecting to a fax they are able to reconstruct viruses on the fax paper which is how they are infecting people. Also they are working on a signal for cell phones that will turn people into cannibalistic zombies who then migrate to a town in Maine.
You should have listened to the entire podcast. It's all explained about the hideouts in the pizza shops and using lizard slaves to make the Gelato.
Serious education! So disappointed in you Macawake ?????
You obviously didn't listen to the whole podcast Macawake. What about the part that the 5G when connected to a fax machine, remember it's nursing homes and they still have faxes, anyway when connecting to a fax they are able to reconstruct viruses on the fax paper which is how they are infecting people. Also they are working on a signal for cell phones that will turn people into cannibalistic zombies who then migrate to a town in Maine.
You should have listened to the entire podcast. It's all explained about the hideouts in the pizza shops and using lizard slaves to make the Gelato.
Serious education! So disappointed in you Macawake ?????
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I could only stomach about the first seven minutes or so before I succumbed to an acute attack of hyperemesis and had to go and self-inject a healthy dose of ondansetron.. but you know what, I wouldn’t have been in the least surprised if the podcast had ended exactly like that ?
More people drown in the Summer than in the Winter months.
I just provided proof that ice cream causes drowning deaths.
Or did I....... ? ?
About five years ago I received a tetorifice booster. I also decided around that time to brush up on my rusty Russian and joined a class.
My Russian is significantly better today than it was six years ago. Who’d have thunk a tetorifice vaccine could accomplish that!?!
( ? I have no idea why s*ummer and w*inter are capitalized. I didn’t do that and I’m unable to edit the words. So some higher force appears to think that the seasons warrant BIG letters.. ).
To take a more scientific approach.
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"The prevalence of autism in the United States has risen steadily since researchers first began tracking it in 2000. The rise in the rate has sparked fears of an autism'epidemic. ' But experts say the bulk of the increase stems from a growing awareness of autism and changes to the condition's diagnostic criteria."
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I very much agree with this statement. Being sceptical is a good thing.
The problem that some posters in this thread seem to have is that they are sceptical of facts, science and even reality. That’s dangerous.