Hello All - I am searching for an honest opinion!!
I am currently in the process of applying for a few nursing programs around the Kansas City area! I have a BA and an MBA (neither related to nursing).
Upon applying to these programs, I worry that my gpa for my BA (3.2) may hinder my ability to get in! My MBA gpa is 4.0. Anyway, im hoping to get an interview with the schools I apply for, just because I think I can explain my desire to become a nurse a lot easier in person than on paper! But I am a little worried about going in for an interview!
I am an African American female, and I'm really not sure if that could potentially be a disadvantage. Just want to hear opinions. I am asking because one school I looked up was the University of Kansas nursing program. I would love to attend this one as I have heard it was a great school, but even just looking at the photos online of their nursing program, I don't see much diversity at all. It can sometimes be a bit discouraging.
I really think finding a program that values diversity not only with race but gender, previous schooling background, work experience, etc. would be beneficial! Any ideas on this? Thoughts? Advice on schools?
What are you talking about ? I was never trying to diminish the experiences that the Jews had my only point is that the black experience in America is often diminished by never allowing it to stand on its own, like it always has to be compared to what someone else has gone through in the same breath. And as far as the bleaching of the skin and straightening of the hair I have no idea what you're talking about I only used it as an example of how white skinned people were able to hide their ethnicity and pass therefore having a better future for themselves and their children when that option was never available to black skinned people.
The other difference between AA people and white skinned "undesirables is that we never had the opportunity to get a nosejob and change our last name as many jews, italians, irish etc. did.
How is it this is not to be perceived as racist?
You can't castigate everyone for offenses and than call immunity for yourself for the very same things.
The other difference between AA people and white skinned "undesirables is that we never had the opportunity to get a nosejob and change our last name as many jews, italians, irish etc. did.
How is it this is not to be perceived as racist?
You can't castigate everyone for offenses and than call immunity for yourself for the very same things.
Still don't see how that's racist. it's a historical fact. It was something done for survival just like practicing day and night to learn english with no accent. It meant a job vs. no job. The Morgansteins became the Morgans. The O'Briens became the Bryants. The very few AA's who could pass for white did it for a better life but as a rule it was not an option for blacks. That was my only point. Still not sure what you mean or how its racist.
Still don't see how that's racist. it's a historical fact. It was something done for survival just like practicing day and night to learn english with no accent. It meant a job vs. no job. The Morgansteins became the Morgans. The O'Briens became the Bryants. The very few AA's who could pass for white did it for a better life but as a rule it was not an option for blacks. That was my only point. Still not sure what you mean or how its racist.
The other difference between AA people and white skinned "undesirables is that we never had the opportunity to get a nosejob and change our last name as many jews, italians, irish etc. did.
You don't address the nose job part of your comment.
It is a well known racial slur about the association of Jews and noses.
To write so easily that Jews (or any ethnic group) could just fix their noses to fit into the mainstream American and thus avoid prejudice is demeaning and invalidates them and their experiences.
You wrote about feeling frustrated that anyone non-black expressing their personal experiences of prejudice takes away focus from the history of black struggle in America.
You have a right to that opinion.
When I share my background and experiences as having prejudice aimed at me for being a Jew, I am either trying to educate others or find common ground with someone. I am not trying to eclipse or lessen someone else's experience.
There's a time for lectures but conversations that motive change and actions are what are going to move us to better places.
I don't know how to say or express my point any clearer.
I didn't say just fix their noses. I addressed a few ways than non blacks were able to integrate into mainstream white society and have better opportunities that were not afforded to blacks. but that was my only point. It doesn't aggravate me when other races talk about their struggles it aggravates me when they have to mention it in the same breath as the black experience which diminishes it like it can't stand on its own it has to be mentioned along with everyone else like just throw it in the pot. I agree that we may just not be understanding each other so take care.
I think it's rare that an applicant would be subjected to racism. I think there are some minorities that would like to blame race rather than the fact that they were not the best qualified person. There is a difference.
I've seen it more times than I can count.
I find it disturbing that the OP would automatically assume race is going to be an issue before she even starts applying.
The truth is, most minorities are given preferential treatment in order to show diversity in admissions.
The most racist group in America is not who you think it is. I live in one of the most bigoted areas of the country and I cannot even tell you how many years it's been since I actually heard anyone make a racist statement.
But what I have seen, is some people of different minority groups use racism as an excuse to not correct behavior at work when corrective action had nothing to do with race, but fell under the category of mistakes that anyone else in the unit would be held accountable for....and IS held accountable for.
As an Asian-American, I always feel that I should score twice as high on tests and have more activities than others on my applications. Being Asian, made me afraid of not getting into nursing school so I applied to A LOT. I, personally, feel that it is unfair that Asians sometimes have been discriminated because they work harder. Many Asian immigrants came here with nothing as well, yet hard work led to achievement. And now the hard work and American dream that we were told about has led to discrimination in some instances.
While I value diversity, it is discouraging to see medical schools and colleges reject the stereotypical Asian male in favor of another person, perhaps a minority, who has lower grades and fewer extracurricular achievements. That is the discrimination that Asians face. It is a lie which we are told: affirmative action has benefitted Asians.
I don't know about other states, but you would be a shoo-in in Arkansas. Especially my university that is set in a metro area. They love students that already have degrees. They are pushed to the top. You have a good GPA. And your race wouldn't (and shouldn't) matter. My schools program had around 200 start, with 25% being men and 25% black females. Only a few were black men. We all bonded as a group, regardless of male/female or color, over how hard classes are during many study sessions. And made some really good friends.
Look around for programs. There are a lot of really good programs that would love to have you.
The most racist group in America is not who you think it is. I live in one of the most bigoted areas of the country and I cannot even tell you how many years it's been since I actually heard anyone make a racist statement.
But what I have seen, is some people of different minority groups use racism as an excuse to not correct behavior at work when corrective action had nothing to do with race, but fell under the category of mistakes that anyone else in the unit would be held accountable for....and IS held accountable for.
So who,according to you, is the most racist group in America, Jory?
The greatest benefactor of Affirmative Action are white women. This is one of the first things I learned in my Sociology class. There was a very good article about it in Time Magazine a couple of years ago.
I find this an interesting assertion. I'd love to see the comparison between the status of women in the workplace in the USA to the same in the UK where there has never been reverse discrimination allowed. The affirmative action in the UK has been restricted to advertisements in women's magazines and big quotes at the bottom of the adverts saying they are an equal opportunities employer. There was never any question of women/minorities being given preference at universities.
In the UK, it is generally stated that legal maternity rights and sex discrimination laws were the game changer for women's equality in the workplace, not quotas.
I think it's rare that an applicant would be subjected to racism. I think there are some minorities that would like to blame race rather than the fact that they were not the best qualified person. There is a difference.
I've seen it more times than I can count.
I find it disturbing that the OP would automatically assume race is going to be an issue before she even starts applying.
The truth is, most minorities are given preferential treatment in order to show diversity in admissions.
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The other difference between AA people and white skinned "undesirables is that we never had the opportunity to get a nosejob and change our last name as many jews, italians, irish etc. did.
How is it this is not to be perceived as racist?
You can't castigate everyone for offenses and than call immunity for yourself for the very same things.