Does name of school matter?

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I am not asking about ivy league schools but does the name and reputation of school matter for a job? I have a medical degree from abroad with more than 5-year family physician experience. Currently in an accelerated BSN program. My question is whether doing MSN NP from an accredited online school( aka Chamberlain level schools) should do or should I get into any brick and mortar school? Honest opinion needed

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.
25 minutes ago, emmawdhous said:

I heard that, as of 2019, the CCNE requires MSN programs to find preceptors for students who can't find them, or that program loses accreditation. Is this correct?

If so, and you're a student in a preceptor bind, make some noise to the CCNE. That should put a fire under your program. ?

This is NOT true. It is important to be mindful of how to locate preceptors BEFORE you actually enroll in school.

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This is NOT true. It is important to be mindful of how to locate preceptors BEFORE you actually enroll in school. >>

Hi, TraumaRUS,

Can you show me where you got your information?

Thanks,

Emma

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33 minutes ago, emmawdhous said:

I heard that, as of 2019, the CCNE requires MSN programs to find preceptors for students who can't find them, or that program loses accreditation. Is this correct?

If so, and you're a student in a preceptor bind, make some noise to the CCNE. That should put a fire under your program. ?

"Requires" probably isn't the right word. CCNE clarified that the ultimate responsibility of securing preceptors rests on the program. But CCNE isn't going to proactively investigate every school to make sure that they're placing students, therefore, it's up to the students to file complaints.

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CCNE 2018 update to accreditation standards, in effect Jan 1, 2019:

Key Element II-B: “Programs that have a direct care focus (including but not limited to, post-licensure baccalaureate and nurse educator tracks) must provide direct care experiences designed to advance the knowledge and expertise of students in a clinical area of practice...the program is responsible for ensuring adequate physical resources and clinical sites. Clinical sites are sufficient, appropriate, and available to achieve the program’s mission, goals, and expected outcomes.”

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2 minutes ago, umbdude said:

"Requires" probably isn't the right word. CCNE clarified that the ultimate responsibility of securing preceptors rests on the program. But CCNE isn't going to proactively investigate every school to make sure that they're placing students, therefore, it's up to the students to file complaints.

Exactly, UMB. Again, students in a preceptor bind, make some noise to the CCNE.

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Sounds nice on paper, but where are they going to get all these preceptors, short of paying them a substantial sum?

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where are they going to get all these preceptors, short of paying them a substantial sum? >>

Good question! On the plus side, at least the burden shifts from the student to the program, which may help weed out bad programs.

Willingness and ability to relocate seems inevitable. Programs doesn't have to say where they'll place you. I'd expect critical shortage areas would be open to precepting in the hope students stay on. (Not a bad plan when the Nurse Corps and NHSC offer NP loan payoffs to work in such sites.)

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On 5/25/2019 at 10:25 AM, Oldmahubbard said:

Sounds nice on paper, but where are they going to get all these preceptors, short of paying them a substantial sum?

This is the hope right - the proprietary, predatory, for-profit schools will not be able to supply preceptors for hundreds upon hundreds of students.

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Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.

My school offered to help find my a preceptor if I relocated to Indiana (I live in Florida, but moved from Indiana about nine years ago). As I have retained my RN license in Indiana, I might have taken them up on this had I not been successful in locating a preceptor. Another, requirement that many schools are adding is requiring a "certain" number of hours be with an NP in the specialty in which they are training rather than an MD. This can be a challenge with certain specialties such as PMHNP in the South where they are relatively rare.

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Since you live in NJ, look at Philadelphia's Drexel Univ. online MSN NP programs:

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The nurse practitioner programs in the Department of Advanced Practice Nursing at Drexel University provide students the flexibility of finding and coordinating their own clinical site and preceptor. The Department of Advanced Practice Nursing offers students resources to assist in this process. Accessibility to clinical sites and preceptors varies from state to state. Students may be required to travel to access clinical sites/preceptors and achieve the necessary clinical hours.

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Drexel charges 1000 per credit hour with 56 credit hours. That is around 60k which I do not want to spend, to be honest. Already I am doing Accelerated BSN which is costing me an arm and leg. Thanks for the information though

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Specializes in ICU, trauma, neuro.

New York and New Jersey are relatively restrictive and do not allow many schools. Thus, you may find it necessary to use a more expensive school than would otherwise be the case.

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