Does everyone have a conscience?

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Does everyone have a conscience? I used to think everyone did, but now I'm not so sure. My colleagues, most of whom are teachers, always reprimand me when I say a kid is bad.

'There's no such thing as a bad child, just bad behaviour' they sometimes say. What happens if you're convinced someone isn't just bad, but has a black heart?

I was on a school trip to London - not so much as a nurse, simply one of the adults chaperoning about 20 seniors from our private European boarding school.

We were sitting not far from Leister Square at a small cafe enjoying the warm late summer evening, soaking in the crowds, the hubbub of life, when a car went roaring past, way in excess of the speed limit, nearly running over several pedestrians in the overcrowded street.

'What an idiot, he could have killed someone' I exclaimed, while Nurlan burst into laughter.

Nurlan was from Kazakhstan, and most likely his family part of the criminal power structure there - although that would only be a guess, but probably accurate.

I asked him what was so funny, and he said it was funny watching people jump out the way.

'But somebody could have been killed!' I exclaimed, and he laughed louder.

It could have been simply teenage bluster, but something about Nurlan didn't feel right; it seemed sinister. But what would I know, I'm probably over-reacting. But I didn't let it drop.

'So you don't care if someone died?' I asked, and he shrugged his shoulders.

'Why would I care?' His laughter had died, the ice in his voice sending a chill down my spine.

I asked him what if that was his grandmother who got run over and killed, and of course, that would be a different story. He said he'd kill the driver, and I believed him. But I wasn't ready to let up.

I asked him what if it was his grandmother who had been hurt, but hadn't died, but needed help, but everyone stood around not caring, and laughing like he did.

'If everyone else was like you, your grandmother would be dead, because no one stopped to give a damn.'

He because agitated, and told me to shut up, but I was angry as well.

'You should be thankful the world isn't full of people like you' I suggested, and he said he wasn't going to sit there and be insulted by a mere nurse. So he left.

Sadly, Nurlan isn't the only teenager I've met who I suspect has never felt compassion for a stranger, but these people aren't immune to change. Five years in a boarding school is sometimes the best thing for some of our students, because it takes them out of their home environment, which is sometimes lethal, particularly to people they don't like.

Sometimes my job isn't about nursing at all, but trying to bring to life that spark of humanity that I do actually believe is inside of all of us, that has sadly been suppressed all their lives.

I can't say Nurlan graduated much different from when he joined us, but then he was only with us for his senior year, so we didn't have the time to bring out the humanity in him.

But there are many others that we do manage to influence in a positive way, but I'll save that for another time.

Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.

So as an experienced nurse .... and an experienced chaperone of teenagers ...

This is the first time you have engaged a teenager in conversation and found them to not verbally display empathy?

Add me to the list of those Not Buying It.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.

I wish one and all would stop feeding this poster (don't want to be mean and use the T-word).

I wish one and all would stop feeding this poster (don't want to be mean and use the T-word).

Amen.:smokin:

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
Sociopaths have no conscience. Much like trolls.

And much like an adult nurse who would tell a child "you should be thankful the world isn't full of people like you."

So as an experienced nurse .... and an experienced chaperone of teenagers ...

This is the first time you have engaged a teenager in conversation and found them to not verbally display empathy?

Add me to the list of those Not Buying It.

What is up with some people.This isn't the first time, but it's one of the more memorable ones, as it was especially cold.In fact, judging by your reaction, and the way you seem to struggle with a pretty straight forward story, I have to wonder what has made your so disbelieving and so critical. Again I'm left wondering if there's something in the water over there.

Nursingaround1,

Leicester (which is mispronounced as "Leister" sometimes, but Google and Maps both have nothing named "Leister square" in tourist areas of London) is a mostly pedestrian area, and for this very reason all "side roads" till Pickadilly are forever packet tight with cars.Drivers are so very careful there, both for the reason of police being around there at all times and for crazy tourists not yet familiar with English driving/road crossing, that we were specifically adviced to choose hotel there as I and my husband were starting right - side drivers and rather very slow on the road. One must be completely crazy to do what you described at that particular place.

BTW, may I know where did you meet "100th of K(AZACH) S" ? Just wondering where I could get into a Kazach restaurant in civilized world, I've been pining for their mantas since 2000.

Miss detective, I think you need to take a look at yourself. I lived in London for 4yrs, so if I wanted to make something up, I could have picked lots of places. Are you trying to bowl everyone over with your knowledge of the traffic at all times of the day. Not sure about the restaurant comment, but do you have any idea of the makeup of your average european boarding school? Probably not, although it's usually Russian, with a large Kazakh contingent.

But seriously, your biggest problem seems to me that during your trip to London with your husband, and you having to drive on the other side of the road, you can't imagine someone speeding in a busy area.

As for the police - they're there because it's such a great target, although everything in London these days is a target.

Seriously, really struggling to figure you out.

Specializes in Pediatric.
I wonder what you would have done/said. Sometimes people need to hear the truth. It also comes with 10yrs experience working with teenagers.

The truth hurts sometimes

Specializes in NICU, Trauma, Oncology.
So as an experienced nurse .... and an experienced chaperone of teenagers ...

This is the first time you have engaged a teenager in conversation and found them to not verbally display empathy?

Add me to the list of those Not Buying It.

This. Have you seen the stupidity that many kids in this age bracket film and put on YouTube. They think it's "hilarious". They are still invincible at this age. They are still developing their conscience. Plus as a PP stated there are many sociological issues at play here.

This. Have you seen the stupidity that many kids in this age bracket film and put on YouTube. They think it's "hilarious". They are still invincible at this age. They are still developing their conscience. Plus as a PP stated there are many sociological issues at play here.

You don't have to buy anything. But out of the hundreds, actually thousands of kids over my ten years, some stand out. I've seen plenty of antics, funny, silly, brainless, harmless, and those simply not thinking, and generally they're a good bunch. But sometimes certain people stand out. But of course, you can't seem to grasp this. You're so quick to shoot people down.

Specializes in ICU.

I don't think the story is unbelievable at all. I just think it's representative of 99% of teenagers... or maybe I was just a sociopathic teenager, too.

I also think you can be a great person without caring about other people, as long as you are intrinsically motivated to be the best person you can be. I might not care if some stranger gets in a car accident, but I'd still call 911 if I witnessed an accident - not because I care about the people in the accident, but because getting them help is the right thing to do.

Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.

I was excited by the title of the thread. And then, I'll say it, I saw who the OP was. Instant turn off. OP, you're wild stories are getting old. Rarely are they truly nursing related. Consider a new hobby. Please

Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.

Oh good, it's not just me that's tired of this dude!

You again? With one of your wild posts? Really nursingaround1?
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