Doc calls nurse coworkers monkeys...

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Once in awhile this ER doc calls the nurses monkeys. Being as I'm new, I haven't heard it for my self yet. The subject just came up when I was telling another nurse that this doc had just explained to another doc on behalf of our new ER Physician Assistant that 'PA school is like nursing school, but for smarter people.' :nailbiting:

How would you interact with someone who has such an apparent disdain for nurses and other health care personnel?

Well anything inappropriate he said to or about me he would wear, I an not going to tolerate bullying or abuse from anyone, he needs to realize that opportunity or education does not equate to intellect, and there are many ways nurse can make a drs life difficult in the work arena!!! trust me!!! lol

You know in the uk for ever we have said you cheeky monkey to kids,,, adults ,,,

now this is totally related to the face that monkeys are cheeky

no one here has ever been offended , but not sure how he sounds saying it or if he has a twinkle In His eye with effection

i said it once in an American hospital in Saudi to a someone from phillapines some looked shocked till I explained,,,

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I have to say letting that type of comment ride is NOT professional at all. What a wimpy response.

You need to tell him straight up that it is simply not acceptable for him to disrespect you that way and that you will be reporting him to HR.

Some docs are just jerks. And so are some patients. But as a nurse, you grow a tough skin and do your job and know you are doing the right thing. Be professional and if this doc continues this kind of crap, report him to your superiors as being unprofessional and condescending. But be prepared for any kind of fallout. But he really isn't worth your time and aggravation. Follow the orders he gives and otherwise ignore him.

Specializes in LTC, Medical, Rehab, Psych.

I think the problem is that too many people use their JOB to identify their status/position in society to others. I don't care how much schooling you've gone through or what type of degree you hold; when you are working for someone else, you are making THEM money and you do not own your work. Self-employment gets you out of this status holding pattern of always needing another degree to rise up and work over someone else. This doc's inferiority complex is coming out bright and clear. He has to "put others in their place" in order to feel good about what he does: working long, long hours fixing others for no other status than to say "I'm a doctor," and get the respect that he can't find otherwise. EGO goes a long way in covering up our inadequacies. I don't think you need to say a damn thing because this guy embarrasses himself daily.

The moral of this tale: do not use your job position to determine your worth.

Some of the physician attitude and disparaging remarks towards the nurses can be a result of the hospital you work at. In 30 years of nursing, I have found that "for profit" hospitals tend to cater to doctors because they need them happy to bring in patients. Nurses tend to be viewed as blue collar workers who exist to be the brainless workers. Nurses are not treated as professionals, and they usually have no voice, limited, if any, shared governance and no one to go to bat for them in situations like this. It allows a doctor who, for some obscure reason, has no respect for the nursing staff to continue to berate and belittle the staff to continue the behavior.

Hospitals that create a culture of "always" and respect would not tolerate this behavior at all. I know my hospital wouldn't. We have a " hot line" for staff to anonymously report incidents like this, and it is immediately taken care of. Our medical director have no tolerance for this type of behavior and this doctor would be talked to and warned. If the behavior continued despite this, he would be looking elsewhere to practice.

i would talk to the Chief of Staff or an administrator after I had talked to my manager, and director and nothing was changing. I would give my D.O.N. a chance to address this problem first though.

As a society, we tend to hold physicians in high regard, and it is discouraging when you work with one who demonstrates a total lack of the very professionalism he thinks nurses lack. He must have had a serious issue in the past with a nurse or nurses, or else he is just an idiot. And remember, 50% of all doctors are in the bottom half of his class, and maybe this one was scraping the bottom of the barrel and it makes him feel better about himself to bully the nurses. Bullies tend to pick on the qualities in others that they dislike the most in themselves.

Specializes in CCU, CVICU, Cath Lab, MICU, Endoscopy..

Just turn on your cellphone on record go close to him and say " oh doctor would you please repeat the whole conversation about nurses being monkeys? I just want to make sure I get an accurate description for human resources "

That should fix him 😂😂

Specializes in CCU, CVICU, Cath Lab, MICU, Endoscopy..
Specializes in as above.

Take doctors with a grain! Some have LARGE ego's and have a GOD complex, some are nice. But in the ER, half have no idea what they are talking about.

Stop taking it personally. If it bothers you, take to the boss nurse. Learn to ignore them. How many got their certificate off shore, or through correspsondence aka online learning.

More than likely it's a defense mechanism he has for his own poor self esteem. Be that as it may, do you really want, as a new nurse to get into a battle of wills with this guy? Unless you are in a hospital from 20 years ago I doubt his remarks have been unnoticed by his peers/ superiors. You can file a complaint, and it may or may not give you any satisfaction. You may never know if he was reprimanded or not. You can however, make sure you are there for your patient's and their needs, and do it in such a way, that if this remark is ever made about you, no one would believe it. In my experience, people such as this doc usually out themselves in a far more inglorious way than anyone else ever could.

Like the pp said, its also most likely poor self esteem. I know this Doctor in my hospital that won't make eye contact when talking to you. He walks right in and he's like: can I see my patients charts? In a demanding way. But its most likely insecurity on his part. He can't probably handle having a conversation with some fine ass nurses like the ones on my floor and when he talks to his patients we can tell how uncomfortable and fake he sounds. He sort of talks to his patients the way you talk to a 4 year old when they get a boo boo. I guess a Social skills class is not included in the Medical school curriculum.

Specializes in ICU-my whole life!!.

Hell no! I am old and have no tolerance for this. Do not ignore it. Who does this clown think he can call/label people? Let him/her get away with it and it will get worse. Doctors think they are better because they spent 10-14 or more years studying. Wrong! Half of the time they have no idea what to diagnose.

Even more sad when you hear them talk about their PA and compare it to nursing school. I dare this clown to follow me one day in the ICU, ER, CathLab or medsurg.

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