Do nurses get away with nurse brutality

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Nurses like police are supposed to remain calm and professional at all times. What someone sees is a matter of perspective. We can close the curtain, so that 6 person team to give a combative patient handol is not displayed on the news. Or straining someone's grandma to put in a ng tube.

If the public saw what we had to do would we too be accused of brutality?

The moderators should correct abuse too

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By the way, I didn't think you were a nurse."

That repeated remark on this thread IS a put down. Yet you're right I do need to report it and not add to the problem.

Any how, why do some here get so upset when a thread is calling nurses mother Theresa. Some are bad big deal

Do you honestly think some incidents don't make it to review board? Must nurses want to get out of there and not have to do extra paper work or charting. Good in theory not always in practice.

Me too! I used to work for a public hospital smack dab in the center of meth central. Our security were tops. The fact that they only hired former/retired military or law enforcement, and that the facility paid them more than any PD in the area (and that included state police) helped: They got the cream of the crop. Like I said, they were top notch and were trained extensively on how to deescalate problems. And in the 23 years that this facility has had armed security, no person has been shot by security. I hope that that record continues.

There are some that are questioning the use of armed security in hospitals. I'm not saying it wouldn't be helpful, but it only takes that one time after 23 yrs to shut it down.

Specializes in Critical Care.
The moderators should correct abuse too

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By the way, I didn't think you were a nurse."

That repeated remark on this thread IS a put down. Yet you're right I do need to report it and not add to the problem.

Any how, why do some here get so upset when a thread is calling nurses mother Theresa. Some are bad big deal

You're making broad, unsubstantiated accusations of abuse, it shouldn't be too surprising if that isn't well received.

If you want to discuss whether specific scenarios might be appropriate or not that,s one thing, but not broad unsupported claims.

Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
Probably. If they looked at what we do with the perspective of ignorance most lay people have of the law enforcement world.

For the most part nurses are trusted before the fact and get an even more generous view of our requests when we explain why we are doing something.

Police get spit on just for being in a uniform.

Some people don't give a crap about other people's rights when they are on their own self righteous mission to get what they want, so they blame and torment the enforcer.

When given a choice about being in the same space with some looney tune with a weapon, you call someone ELSE (police) to handle your problem and get outta the way. You're getting out while they have to go in.

Since when can you be instantly, absolutely, positively, 100% certain, like your life depended on it that some stranger you just met in low light conditions doesn't have some lethal piece of metal in their fast-moving, coming at you hands????? Cuz if you are wrong just once, you ain't getting home today. or EVER.

Sure, there are bad apples that deserve a double dose of punishment for abusing their position of trust. That should take a jury of peers to judge these people who have to deal with the underbelly of life that law enforcement officers do.

Nurses are NOT like police. There is NO comparison to what nurses do.

I can't "like" this enough.

Try being a prison nurse... We always got accused of brutality and abuse. All the time. Some of the accusations were absolutely ridiculous. Thank God for cameras, witnesses and documentation

Specializes in Tele/Interventional/Non-Invasive Cardiology.
I wanna know where he/she is working that there are six staff members on duty and able to be in the room at the same time...

My thought, exactly!

The hospital doesn't revolve around ER. You're telling me that ALL people are agreeable as to how someone is restrained?

My post is asking if nurses get away brutality? I believe a few do, yet most people take it as an attack on them. Some nurses aren't angels and are abusive, you take offense perhaps look in the mirror.

I'm not going to be naive and assume All nurse's actions can be defended. Even in ER staff can cross the line, it happens and it is not rarity. Wonder why we have to take classes on it every year.

Own it

I don't work in ER and I won't own it. Patients require restraints and when they do, I'll gladly apply them. All of our intubated patients get orders for restraints.

I'm in the business of saving lives, but I also have a family to go home to. I absolutely will not tolerate being assaulted at work. And since I don't get the back up to press charges against patients, yeah, they'll go in restraints. And I won't think another thing of it.

I've never done one ounce of training on nurse brutality. Because that's not what we do.

You still haven't answered if you are a nurse or not. I remember your other pot stirring posts, it was my recollection that you were not.

The OP keeps harping on the fact that the family may perceive something as brutality. Perception is not necessarily reality, and often is not. If I have applied restraints as per order and appropriately, or given a medication per POA in the case of a patient who is not competent to make his own decisions, and I have educated other family members about the rationale for these, then I have a clear conscience. If a family member perceives "brutality" even after being given education on why a patient has been restrained and assured that the restraints and patient condition are monitored as per SOP, then their "perception" becomes their own problem and not something I'm going to give any more thought to. You can't please 'em all.

Probably. If they looked at what we do with the perspective of ignorance most lay people have of the law enforcement world.

For the most part nurses are trusted before the fact and get an even more generous view of our requests when we explain why we are doing something.

Police get spit on just for being in a uniform.

Some people don't give a crap about other people's rights when they are on their own self righteous mission to get what they want, so they blame and torment the enforcer.

When given a choice about being in the same space with some looney tune with a weapon, you call someone ELSE (police) to handle your problem and get outta the way. You're getting out while they have to go in.

Since when can you be instantly, absolutely, positively, 100% certain, like your life depended on it that some stranger you just met in low light conditions doesn't have some lethal piece of metal in their fast-moving, coming at you hands????? Cuz if you are wrong just once, you ain't getting home today. or EVER.

Sure, there are bad apples that deserve a double dose of punishment for abusing their position of trust. That should take a jury of peers to judge these people who have to deal with the underbelly of life that law enforcement officers do.

Nurses are NOT like police. There is NO comparison to what nurses do.

I find your cop apologist attitude reprehensible.

Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant.
I find your cop apologist attitude reprehensible.

Ugg...If we are going down this road, I'm out.

BTW, I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing with anyone's particular viewpoint on the issue...I just think that AN is not the correct forum for a debate on the appropriateness of police actions.

Nurses do not get away with brutality! That's called abuse. No way! We'll report each other if we know of it.

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