Do they check to see if you have your BSN/Masters degree ?

[lumbarpain]

I had seen many Nursing positions that require a BSN or Masters degree.....Do they check this information out before you get the job? Outside of putting all the letters after your name which most nurses that have achieved this, how would they know?

[rntim49]

I really hope you people are kidding about breaking the law.Copying anyones degree is the lowest form of stealing I can think of.

1) Photocopy

2) White-out

3) Copy again

4) Now, fill in your name

At this point you can't even see the white-out.

[Cathylady]

My goodness, not only should they check to see if you have the degree your college transcripts should be checked as well and by transcripts I mean the ones that come directly from the college signed, sealed, and delivered.

I always say that when I go to a doctors office I could care less what college he/she graduated from but I much rather see their GPA while they were going to school! Why don't they frame that and put it in their office.

[OCNRN63, RN]

Hey! I should do that so I can go to CRNA school!!

Now you're talking!

[SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS]

My goodness, not only should they check to see if you have the degree your college transcripts should be checked as well and by transcripts I mean the ones that come directly from the college signed, sealed, and delivered.

I always say that when I go to a doctors office I could care less what college he/she graduated from but I much rather see their GPA while they were going to school! Why don't they frame that and put it in their office.

Q. What do you call the person who graduated lowest in class in medical school?

A. A doctor.

Ba dum bum.

[MaryAnn_RN]

We did have somebody working in our department who kept bragging about her Bsc (BSN) but was very evasive as to where/when etc. Having worked with her, I've often wondered if her qualifications were verified.

[wooh, BSN, RN]

I've found photocopying someone else's degree then using wite-out over the name then filling mine in works just fine.

I need to make better friends with one of the doctors! Get invited over for drinks one night. Come to work the next day in a whole new career, Dr. Wooh, MD!

(And btw, I sooooo needed that laugh!)

[PacoUSA, BSN, RN]

I always say that when I go to a doctors office I could care less what college he/she graduated from but I much rather see their GPA while they were going to school! Why don't they frame that and put it in their office.

Medical students with 4.0 GPA's don't automatically make the best doctors, it just proves they know how to take tests.

[zorabanks]

I've found photocopying someone else's degree then using wite-out over the name then filling mine in works just fine.

LOL.....

[workingharder]

I really hope you people are kidding about breaking the law.Copying anyones degree is the lowest form of stealing I can think of.

It worked when I became Ambassador to Portugal.

Quote from workingharder

1) Photocopy

2) White-out

3) Copy again

4) Now, fill in your name

At this point you can't even see the white-out."

[hiddencatRN, BSN, RN]

I really hope you people are kidding about breaking the law.Copying anyones degree is the lowest form of stealing I can think of.

No.

We are dead serious.

Dead. Serious.

[IEDave, ASN, CNA, LVN]

I really hope you people are kidding about breaking the law.Copying anyones degree is the lowest form of stealing I can think of.

I'll bite...

Ahem - as far as trying to actually falsify a set of educational records; yes, it can be done - no, it ain't easy.

First, most educational resource planning applications have the ability to do some or all of this already; the trouble arises when you get into the details. Say, you want to grab Dr. Schmo's records and duplicate them - o.k. Now, you've probably got a copy of his header info (Name, Address, SSN) at this point - then, you've got to force open all of the past class records and build attendance info for your dupe. We'll make it easy & say the dupe attended at the same time Dr. Schmo did - and, that Schmo didn't transfer from somewhere else.

Then - Financial aid. You're going to have fake up transaction info at this level, otherwise General Ledger's going to get hosed. Plus, if Schmo received funding from grants, loans, etc. there's records at various banks, lending institutions, etc. that are going to show inconsistencies. Red flags are starting to fly...

In addition, those educational records have to be sent to the State (Board of Education), so you now have to fake out an entirely new computer system, which'll send up even more red flags all over the place. Not to mention that the person in the Registrar's Office will be checking not only their local records, but checking the State's records as well - to make sure their records weren't duped.

Then, you've got the State Board that handles licensure - more fiddling with a system you don't have easy access to. And still more red flags...

Yes - I know I've left out steps (deliberately) since my objective wasn't to tell some random nit how to spoof a set of educational records. My point is that doing something like this "for real" isn't easy, because you're having to falsify an entire process without anyone being the wiser. And, that's tough to do - even just on the local school system.

Bit more involved than white-out and a Bic pen, no?

Relax - and enjoy the joke.

----- Dave

p.s. The reason the systems have this ability is occasionally those records have to be recreated - either because there was a system hiccup or (more often) someone fumble-fingered something and deleted a student record. How do I know this? My last employer had me working for a local school district - did that for about 2 1/2 years. Won't bother with the legalities, since any one of those "red flags" correlates to a felony, usually at the state level & sometimes at the federal level.

[wooh, BSN, RN]

I got onto allnurses without proving who I am. Surely I can get a job the same way...