In the news this week, a newborn was found in a ditch at around 6 a.m. naked buy still covered in bodily fluids. It was around 20 degrees here when this baby was found.
HOW does this happen?
The mother for lack of a better word has not come forward yet. The police are saying they are not interested in pressing charges at this time.
I don't understand for the life of me how someone can bring a life into this world and then just toss the child into a ditch...no blanket, no bath...nothing
Even if she were very very young, most 10-11 yo girls won't even put a pet out in this frigid weather...so how does one toss a baby out?
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Originally posted by colleen10
This is truly a sad story and I wish nothing but the best for the infant, however, I cannot sit here and be consumed with hatred for this mother nor wonder how she could have come to the point to do what she did.
Like SmilingBlueEyes said, there may be more to the story.
We don't know if she was a 16 year old girl out of her mind living in fear of her changing body and every day hoping and praying that no one would discover her secret. Fearful that her family would find out what had happened to her and how they might rebuke her. Perhaps even more fearful of society's reaction.
I can't know what it's like to be that girl but the thought of being in her shoes for one minute scares the h-ll out of me and I'm 28 years old.
It makes me mad to see people "popping" babies out left and right with no regard to their care. But I think we all know that not every sexual encounter and perhaps resulting pregnancy is planned nor wanted. Sometimes I think in these cases the problem isn't with the mother so much as it is to society. It seems the same people that would condemn a woman for doing such a haneous act would be the same ones to publicly scold her for having an illigitimate child or for being "loose" if she continuted with her pregnancy and kept her child.
What she did is deplorable but I cannot sit and judge her.
ITA! Along the same lines, the same people who sit in judgement of this woman, some of them, I'm sure (already evidenced on this board), would condemn her for seeking an abortion. I know we all don't agree on THAT subject, and of course, there are how many people waiting and wanting a baby, but clearly this girl/woman, and others like her feel they have NO options....
Uh...OK, you are scary! So you think any woman who chooses abortion is a "garden variety psychopath"...
And you are a nurse? :eek: Scary, very scary....
I don't care what you write about me or what you think about me. And I will not defend my position. I write what I write, and it stands as it is. You can interpret it any way you want; it doesn't change a thing.
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Originally posted by ADNRN
I don't care what you write about me or what you think about me. And I will not defend my position. I write what I write, and it stands as it is. You can interpret it any way you want; it doesn't change a thing.
You're a STUDENT, correct? Trying to become a nurse?
You have a long way to go and with that attitude, it's gonna be a long journey.
You also started a thread "Philosophy of Nursing", where you posted your "own" philosophy, correct?
I think you need to review your own philosophy as you stated it, because it sure doesn't jive with your comments in THIS thread.
Moondancer, it has been my experience that many people have a certain philosophy they believe in, except when it concerns _____ (you fill in the blanks).
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Originally posted by fergus51
Moondancer, it has been my experience that many people have a certain philosophy they believe in, except when it concerns _____ (you fill in the blanks).
You're absolutely right Fergus...in fact, I just finished reading that other thread; it's certainly enlightening and explains a lot!
You're a STUDENT, correct? Trying to become a nurse?
You have a long way to go and with that attitude, it's gonna be a long journey.
You also started a thread "Philosophy of Nursing", where you posted your "own" philosophy, correct?
I think you need to review your own philosophy as you stated it, because it sure doesn't jive with your comments in THIS thread.
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
As long as what you think doesn't overflow to your career...
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Originally posted by ADNRN
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
Oh my where do I begin? You are something else. I think your views are monstrous. No, NOT that you are anti-abortion ( I respect that), but you would JUDGE EVERYONE by your unmoving and unreasonable standards! That you would dare say people who have an abortion are "psychopaths". I think you need to look in the mirror long and hard. Yes, I do.
And I hope you never let them be known to your future patients IF you finish and become a nurse. Funny thing, after nearly 7 years of nursing, what I have learned is there is NO set rule that applies to all people and that being this judgmental only reflects on the kind of person YOU are, not those you *JUDGE*.
I hope you learn. But I doubt it. I have run across your type before, and rarely do such leopards change their spots. I spent 9 years in the "bible belt" so I know what I am talking about here. Thing is, I respect anti-abortion beliefs and religious preferences, but honey you stepped over the line saying they are psychopathic when women seek abortion. That is where I have such heartburn with you.
You are scary; yes I say it once again. I believe you are dangerous. Personally I pray you reconsider entering nursing. PLEASE DO!!!! I don't want the likes of people like you hurting already vulnerable patients or poisoning coworkers with such viewpoints. At least for heaven's sake stay out of OB and GYN please, for the PATIENTs' sakes!!!!!! I am gonna stop cause I am in close danger of violating TOS here, and you are SO VERY NOT worth it, that much I KNOW!!!!
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Originally posted by ADNRN
That's right: I'm a nursing student trying to become a nurse. And you say I have a bad attitude. Why? because I think abortion is murder? Because I believe in advocating for the life of the unborn human being? Because I consider the mentality of those who would commit abortion to be antisocial? Maybe my attitude is wrong in your eyes, but in my neck of the United States, in my religious culture, and in my particular nursing class, my opinion is the majority opinion. So why don't we just drop this issue and you believe what you want and try to advance it, and I'll believe what I want, and I will try to advance it, and in the end, wisdom will be proved right by her actions. Hmmm?
As for my philosophy, I don't see the connection? Because I state my opinion, I am violating my belief that I am one with other human beings? I argue in my own head every day, so what? How does that violate my philosophy? I am one with the psychopaths as much as I am with the insane as much as I am with the cardiac patient or you. I don't get what you're getting at.
Sorry, ADN, if you read my post, I never state that you have a "bad" attitude. I simply state that you HAVE an attitude, and you do indeed. You are certainly welcome to your opinion about abortion, as I am as well. What I think most of us object is calling someone who's had an abortion a "psychopath".
If your journey in nursing school continues, you will learn that this is a big no-no. You simply do not call people names b/k they have done something that YOU disprove of. At least, if you want this to be a long lasting career. You will, in your nursing journey, run into and perhaps have to treat pt.'s that have done despicable things. It is NOT your job to judge these people. It is your job to provide care to these individuals.
The very fact that you can so carelessly throw out a statement like that, really does go against your own proposed nursing "philosophy". "Nurse = Love"....not very loving, now is it?
I'm not trying to argue w/you, ADN,but your comments come off very flippant and arrogant. And that doesn't go over very well with people who ARE RN's. Or for caring human beings, for that matter...
So you think any woman who chooses abortion is a "garden variety psychopath"...
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