Student passed out on PE doing fitness gram, was having abnormal breathing and not responding. Called 911, operator gave instructions to do CPR and just did it, 3 mins, not stopping. Other people around me were freaking out, no one wanted to take over, so I kept going. EMTs came, took it over, student was fine after a while. She has done this before, basically anxiety/panic attacks, and parents are trying to find the cause of it. She went home, and was fine after all issue, talking and smiling. People were telling me good job, and was said I was very calm doing the issue, but in all honestly, I was trying to keep it together while everyone is panicking and I know I'll freak out later at home.
OP, what is your level of training for CPR? Do you have a heartsaver, a BLS, nothing? For your level of education there is a wide variety of training levels for CPR. Just wondering for background on this scenerio.
Specializes in Cardiology, School Nursing, General.
OP, what is your level of training for CPR? Do you have a heartsaver, a BLS, nothing? For your level of education there is a wide variety of training levels for CPR. Just wondering for background on this scenerio.
I forgot to mention the student was a 13 year old.
I am CPR/AED BLS certified for adult, peds and infant.
To other posters: And as mentioned I am just a CMA guys. I get as nurses you have more education than me, but give me the benefit of the doubt at least that I did something right, as someone who isn't a nurse, the EMTs already told me I did.
I have no right to question what the 911 person told me because I am not a nurse and can safely say, "Oh she's fine." I don't feel comfortable saying that when I am not an RN, CNA or anything that is nursing. This is why I did what she told me to do, even if I had a bit of doubt. Now if I was a real RN or anything under the sun, that would be a different story.
I want to know more and be educated enough to help my students when this happens, and I thank you all for that knowledge in this one post, but please understand that I AM NOT A NURSE! And I love my job and what I do, that I am striving to be a real nurse, currently doing my pre-required classes for nursing programs.
I love seeing the regulars of the SN board react to your posts versus those who stumble upon them because of the title. It's such a clear indicator of our anonymous friendship.
I love seeing the regulars of the SN board react to your posts versus those who stumble upon them because of the title. It's such a clear indicator of our anonymous friendship.
I know, right? Leave it, all the questions have been asked and it had a positive outcome. That regular AN world is NASTY.
Specializes in School Nurse. Having conversations with littles..
I love seeing the regulars of the SN board react to your posts versus those who stumble upon them because of the title. It's such a clear indicator of our anonymous friendship.
Yes. This. (I just want to say.... "Hey. Leave. Her. Alone." She's got this! (I feel like Amethya is my little sister.) :)
...Without an AED, her cardiac rhythm cannot truly be known, even by checking pulse. I agree there should be no breaths or stops for pulse checks. Perfusion, perfusion, perfusion. RBCs normally complete their job every min. The iron hemes carry an Oxygen. So that's 2 tiny doses of O2, however there are around somewhere b/t 260 to 300 MILLION iron+oxygen bonds (hemoglobin). The cells are flattened-discoid in shape, thereby increasing surface area and easier to get all those O2 molecules to vital organs. FYI: They are flexible sponges when they pick up O2. They carry A LOT of oxygen this way and get into tiny vessels like they do yoga. However, the last thing to worry about during a code or with CPR on someone put in your path that day (Fate) is their capillaries. Capillary refill doesn't apply in such a moment.
So you have millions of hemoglobin molecules in a single RBC, and depending on sex and size (and comorbidities) we have about 25 TRILLION RBC, give or take a few TRILLION. Plus RBCs are continuously, non-stop pump out Retics that are "adults" in about a week.
When under extreme conditions, like an MI, RBCs pull off magic tricks to keep vessels dilated and flexible, while releasing other substances that constrict vessels in extremities, keeping vital organs top priority. ATP (clot-buster) is also released when the body is in shock.
I love A&P and as you might see, I'm a dork. This is ultimately why you keep pumping until you pass out or they come to and push you off! ...
-"What a long, strange trip it's been." - Grateful Dead
I enjoyed your RBC 'visual'. Thanks for sharing, Dempster.
I love seeing the regulars of the SN board react to your posts versus those who stumble upon them because of the title. It's such a clear indicator of our anonymous friendship.
^This and every comment after regarding this is why I pretty much only post and check the SN board. We are a strong little unit.
I love seeing the regulars of the SN board react to your posts versus those who stumble upon them because of the title. It's such a clear indicator of our anonymous friendship.
Please don't make those of us who are new to the site feel bad about contributing. What I hate about School Nursing is the isolation. This site was really making me feel that I am not out there alone and that you all understand what I am experiencing.
(I feel like Amethya is my little sister.) :)
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OP, what is your level of training for CPR? Do you have a heartsaver, a BLS, nothing? For your level of education there is a wide variety of training levels for CPR. Just wondering for background on this scenerio.