Debate prep for both sides

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Sep 30, 2020

OUCH...... sad to see a President disintegrate before our eyes. Expected more control by Chris Wallace.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 30, 2020

Trump is so clearly unfit for this position. Holy hell. How does someone watch that and still think that this is OK? He told the proud boys to stand by rather than condemn white supremacy.

Kyrshamarks, BSN, RN · Sep 30, 2020

And has ANY dumbocrat including Sleepy Joe condemned the violence by Antifa and the thugs at BLM? NO, they haven't. In fact they encourage it.

MunoRN, RN · Sep 30, 2020

36 minutes ago, Kyrshamarks said:

And has ANY dumbocrat including Sleepy Joe condemned the violence by Antifa and the thugs at BLM? NO, they haven't. In fact they encourage it.

Some of Biden's public statements on violence and looting related to protests:

"There’s no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses […] we need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction."

"The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable […] as a country we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight."

"Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not."

"I want to be very clear about all of this: Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted," Biden said. "Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way."

allnurses Guide · Sep 30, 2020

8 hours ago, MunoRN said:

Some of Biden's public statements on violence and looting related to protests:

"There’s no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses […] we need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction."

"The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable […] as a country we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight."

"Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not."

"I want to be very clear about all of this: Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted," Biden said. "Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way."

I quit watching about half way through it was giving me a headache. The libertarian in me wants to write in "11" from Stranger Things and let her stir things up

toomuchbaloney · Sep 30, 2020

1 hour ago, hppygr8ful said:

I quit watching about half way through it was giving me a headache. The libertarian in me wants to write in "11" from Stranger Things and let her stir things up

IMV that seems an odd response when confronted with the reality that the IMPOTUS is a crazy man and your republic is in deep peril. It's almost like if the GOP candidate is a fool and not acceptable the GOP voters feel like they should burn down the country. Holy hell.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 30, 2020

11 hours ago, Kyrshamarks said:

And has ANY dumbocrat including Sleepy Joe condemned the violence by Antifa and the thugs at BLM? NO, they haven't. In fact they encourage it.

LOL

What a silly bit of partisan nonsense. I can only imagine where and how that type of belief is built.

allnurses Guide · Sep 30, 2020

12 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Trump is so clearly unfit for this position. Holy hell. How does someone watch that and still think that this is OK? He told the proud boys to stand by rather than condemn white supremacy.

The Proud Boys are using Trump's 'stand by' remark as a recruiting tool, rebranding to incorporate what they see as his call to action

The far-right Proud Boys group has launched a recruitment drive following President Donald Trump's comments during the first presidential debate.
"Proud Boys - stand back and stand by," remarked the president when asked to denounce white nationalism.
Members of the group have clashed with anti-racism demonstrators in cities such as Portland.
Trump's comments come amid concerns that armed militias could come to polling stations as conspiracy theories about rigged ballots spread.

https://www.MSN.com/en-us/news/us/the-proud-boys-are-using-trump-s-stand-by-remark-as-a-recruiting-tool-rebranding-to-incorporate-what-they-see-as-his-call-to-action/ar-BB19zStZ

allnurses Guide · Sep 30, 2020

Established in the midst of the 2016 presidential election by VICE Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys are self-described “western chauvinists” who adamantly deny any connection to the racist “alt-right,” insisting they are simply a fraternal group spreading an “anti-political correctness” and “anti-white guilt” agenda.

Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Sep 30, 2020

12 hours ago, Kyrshamarks said:

And has ANY dumbocrat including Sleepy Joe condemned the violence by Antifa and the thugs at BLM? NO, they haven't. In fact they encourage it.

In Joe Biden's own words, his antivolence statement

macawake, MSN · Sep 30, 2020

13 hours ago, Kyrshamarks said:

And has ANY dumbocrat including Sleepy Joe condemned the violence by Antifa and the thugs at BLM? NO, they haven't. In fact they encourage it.

When I see posts like yours I always wonder if the poster is telling a deliberate lie or if they simply haven’t bothered to look for evidence that’s easily accessible and that proves the claim false.

Even I, all the way over in Europe, have seen or heard Biden’s statements that Muno posted. Why haven’t you? Your internet is working as evidenced by your post here, so why are you attempting to spread information that is demonstrably false?

Dumbocrats? Honestly.

Does it cause you any concern at all when your President tells white supremacists to ”stand by”? Stand by for what? To do what exactly?

Why won’t you address that instead of resorting to whataboutism?

That debate was an embarrassment. Do you have any idea of how you look to the rest of the world? I think for the next two debates they should put the candidates in two separate soundproofed booths with speakers and microphones inside and simply mute the microphone of Candidate A’s booth when Candidate B speaks for his allotted time, and vice versa. That way they might have something resembling a debate, instead of the ugly assault on democracy and demise of decency we witnessed. The losers after last night’s debate are in my opinion the American people.