Multiple vaccine incentives are now being offered to those getting vaccinated this month to meet the CDC/President Biden's goal of 70% adult vaccination by July 4th, 2021.
Those vaccinated at CVS pharmacy or by CVS pharmacist @ covid clinic/ SNF, can enter to win numerous prizes -- including Feb. 2022 Super Bowl Trip! Of course, they weren't permitted to give vaccine yet to general public when I or sons vaccinated in PA --so I'll try their mail-in address per website. Will need to find a Krispy Creame for my free doughnut (damm the diet)!
Arkansas: lottery tickets and gift certificates for hunting and fishing licenses
California: $1.5 million each for 10 Californians; $50 gift cards either for general use or for specific grocery stores to the next 2 million people who get shots started May 27th, 21
Delaware: $5,000 in cash and additional prizes in twice-weekly drawings conducted by the Delaware Lottery
West Virginia: college scholarship, a Ford F-150 pickup truck, custom hunting rifles and shotguns, or cash rewards with a grand prize of $1.58 million and a second-place award of $588,00
Washington: Four residents - $250,000 plus one winner — $1 million.
People calling for a vaccine mandate are not mocking the unvaccinated, they are trying to protect the population that cannot receive a vaccine. I have been called names and declared stupid, a kool-aid drinker and a sheeple on social media because I urged people to mask and get vaccinated. Demonstrators regularly show up at our vaccine clinics with signs declaring us to be baby-killers. So no, I don't think I'm being obtuse. I think you are the one who is being dismissive.
How did you get there from what I said? And you speaking from your sole experience while I'm speaking from what's happening around the country. Just say you don't want to understand what's happening outside your bubble and call it a day.
My state is giving away a total of $2,000,000 dollars. I estimate that is equivalent to 10 hospitalizations for COVID. And many of those hospitalization are for the elderly and disadvantaged and funded by the government. If incentives gets a 1000 more people vaccinated and prevent 100 hospitalizations and a death, I say it is worth it.
You think a covid hospitalization only costs $200K? The math ain't mathing for you on that. It's so much more. Also, the elderly and disadvantaged aren't the only people affected by covid. Covid doesn't favor a race, sex, economic status, etc. Everybody is at risk. All you're doing is proving my point that people are desperate for money so they're willing to do whatever it takes when no one should be so desperate for help that they throw all logic out the window. We're not a 3rd world country yet far too many are suffering as if we are and that is a problem but have at, I guess.
Yes my state has a lottery. I call it a tax on people who can't do math. And my state has put a lot of money into supporting people who cannot work or are in danger of losing their homes. We also got checks from the federal government and enhanced unemployment benefits. Small businesses got forgivable loans. See, all those things and incentives can happen, too.
But my state doesn't have a regular lottery nor a covid shot lottery, so again, your lottery comment is irrelevant to what I'm saying. A lot of states doubled up on foodstamps and unemployment but how far do you think that goes? The fact is people have still gone homeless and hungry in record numbers and the money now being used to bribe them into shots could AND should have been used to help them when they needed it the most which was before the vax was ever invented. Why is that so hard for you to understand? And that last sentence was pure condescension but failed to counter my point as "all those things and incentives" still didn't stop people from losing homes and going hungry but go off.
Yes, medical companies lie and cover up, but I think it would be pretty hard to do that with these vaccines. Can you think of any other pharmaceutical that is a closely watched as COVID vaccines? I can't.
The sad part is you think covid vax is the most closely watched vaxs. There have been protests, pop-up communities, and whole thesis papers written about the vaxs we've all been receiving since childhood due to the new antivax crowd, or you've been under a rock somewhere the past few decades? Again, step outside your bubble and you'll realize life is moving right along for the rest of the world. Because you didn't see it or know about it doesn't mean it's not happening or hasn't occurred.
If you don't approve of companies offering incentives then I suggest you don't patronize them. If you happen to win a prize, give it to someone you think is more deserving. I didn't need the government payouts from last year, so I used them to support local businesses and the food bank. If I win my state's prize, I will give that away too.
I don't need your suggestions on patronizing things. The government is offering incentives so now what? The federal government is considering giving away Superbowl tickets or that's not a thing because you haven't heard of it? Nobody cares what you did or will do with things as a single person. Unless you're a millionaire or government participating in these sham incentives, what you do is again, irrelevant.
Is getting money or a truck or something else of value the wrong reason to get a vaccine? Of course it is. But at this point, I say do what is legal to get shots in arms.
So you've been doing this back and forth thing to circle back to what I said from the beginning? Got it. Just say you want to be pessimistic and call it a day. ?
I don't understand why you have directed so much anger at me. I have said twice now that I'm not in favor of incentives.
As for living under a rock or in a bubble, perhaps I do. But my experience is different than what I see and read about the rest of country.
And yeah, I've become pessimistic. I am so tired wearing a damn mask that I could scream. I'm tired of reading that hundreds of people are dying of a preventable disease every day, while vaccine clinics are being shut down due lack of patients.
I don't understand why you have directed so much anger at me. I have said twice now that I'm not in favor of incentives.
As for living under a rock or in a bubble, perhaps I do. But my experience is different than what I see and read about the rest of country.
And yeah, I've become pessimistic. I am so tired wearing a damn mask that I could scream. I'm tired of reading that hundreds of people are dying of a preventable disease every day, while vaccine clinics are being shut down due lack of patients.
But you do you.
It's not anger, it's the fact you're being intentionally obtuse only to circle back and agree with my original POV. You legit went back and forth only to arrive at what I said from the beginning. Your one experience doesn't negate the rest of the earth. You being tired of wearing a mask and whatever else results in me being the object of your pessimism why? Don't project your gripes onto me, call your local news crew and have at it on your local community since that's all you seem to recognize while ignoring the rest of the planet.
It's not anger, it's the fact you're being intentionally obtuse only to circle back and agree with my original POV. You legit went back and forth only to arrive at what I said from the beginning. Your one experience doesn't negate the rest of the earth. You being tired of wearing a mask and whatever else results in me being the object of your pessimism why? Don't project your gripes onto me, call your local news crew and have at it on your local community since that's all you seem to recognize while ignoring the rest of the planet.
Ooh, it's like you're in my head and know all my thoughts and intentions. You know for a fact what I am being intentional about. You are that good or clairvoyant.
Projecting my gripes on you? Thou doth project too much.
I ignore the rest of the planet? Hardly. I've made several posts about what India and Brazil are enduring.
Yes, I do recognize my local community. Perhaps because I work for the local health department and am immersed in case and vaccine numbers daily. My daughter works with a local nonprofit that helps people experiencing homelessness and hunger, so I hear a lot about that too.
So you have jumped from concerns about companies controlling people, to vaccine safety, to food stamps and poverty, and now to the world. So instead of repeatedly insulting me, why don't you share what your solutions are?
Ooh, it's like you're in my head and know all my thoughts and intentions. You know for a fact what I am being intentional about. You are that good or clairvoyant.
Projecting my gripes on you? Thou doth project too much.
I ignore the rest of the planet? Hardly. I've made several posts about what India and Brazil are enduring.
Yes, I do recognize my local community. Perhaps because I work for the local health department and am immersed in case and vaccine numbers daily. My daughter works with a local nonprofit that helps people experiencing homelessness and hunger, so I hear a lot about that too.
So you have jumped from concerns about companies controlling people, to vaccine safety, to food stamps and poverty, and now to the world. So instead of repeatedly insulting me, why don't you share what your solutions are?
Or I just legit went paragraph by paragraph responding to you. Again, projection. Your comprehension ain't comprehending.
You initially came with condescension and BS and now I'm insulting you because I called it out? Girl if you don't get.... ?
So someone who disagrees with you is condescending, obtuse, or lives under a rock/in a bubble. Got it.
Negative. Someone who is condescending and disagrees only to then say they agree when challenged on their nonsense and says they're only focused on what's happening in their immediate area as if that's the end all be all lives under a rock/in a bubble.
I'm really bored with your desperation to be some fake victim game. You've already proven you just want to be a pessimist and have displayed your projection. Basically, anything you say from here on out is just some ego thirst trap. How about this, I'm going to let you have it and call it a day. You win, whatever it is you're trying to prove here. Feel better now? Good for you! ??
Negative. Someone who is condescending and disagrees only to then say they agree when challenged on their nonsense and says they're only focused on what's happening in their immediate area as if that's the end all be all lives under a rock/in a bubble.
From your first post on this thread:
"I'm uneasy about vaccines being monetized".
From my first post on this thread:
"I think it's unfortunate that people need more incentive than ending a global pandemic,"
I don't think these opinions differ that much. I did however go on to say that it may be acceptable if it gets more people vaccinated.
I don't like the idea of the vaccines being incentivized in any way. People can and will decide for themselves. I am more concerned with the reasoning why some may not want the vaccine. IMO, it is because this entire pandemic has been politized from the very beginning from the WHO, CDC, Fauchi etc, MSM media including facebook/Twitter as well as news organizations like CNN etc. We have seen politicians set rules they themselves do not follow, we have seen NYC governor receive an Emmy award and write a book about what a great job he is doing all the while sending/mandating elderly back to nursing homes to die, and having horrific covid numbers etc (and there are many many more examples). When people know they are not getting a straight answer from the very people they are supposed to believe then I am not sure why anyone is surprised that people don't believe what they are being told about the vaccines, ie that they are safe, (maybe, maybe not). Maybe if our "leaders" had been straight with us/the public people would not be so skeptical.
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12 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:
I don't like the idea of the vaccines being incentivized in any way. People can and will decide for themselves. I am more concerned with the reasoning why some may not want the vaccine. IMO, it is because this entire pandemic has been politized from the very beginning from the WHO, CDC, Fauchi etc, MSM media including facebook/Twitter as well as news organizations like CNN etc. We have seen politicians set rules they themselves do not follow, we have seen NYC governor receive an Emmy award and write a book about what a great job he is doing all the while sending/mandating elderly back to nursing homes to die, and having horrific covid numbers etc (and there are many many more examples). When people know they are not getting a straight answer from the very people they are supposed to believe then I am not sure why anyone is surprised that people don't believe what they are being told about the vaccines, ie that they are safe, (maybe, maybe not). Maybe if our "leaders" had been straight with us/the public people would not be so skeptical.
Dr Fauci didn't politicize the pandemic, the politicians in control at the time did. The biggest and most persistent lies about the pandemic came from the Trump administration, those lies affected the entire nation. Many of the people who refuse to believe the science or the institutions created to provide public health analysis and recommendations do so because of the lies they've believed from Trump and his advisors or spokespeople.
We'll never get past this problem with dishonesty if we keep pretending that Trump isn't at the core of the problem in this moment in time. IMV
I don't think there's much possibility that Trump wasn't controlling the political covid messaging.
Dr Fauci didn't politicize the pandemic, the politicians in control at the time did. The biggest and most persistent lies about the pandemic came from the Trump administration, those lies affected the entire nation. Many of the people who refuse to believe the science or the institutions created to provide public health analysis and recommendations do so because of the lies they've believed from Trump and his advisors or spokespeople.
We'll never get past this problem with dishonesty if we keep pretending that Trump isn't at the core of the problem in this moment in time. IMV
I don't think there's much possibility that Trump wasn't controlling the political covid messaging.
You couldnt be more wrong!! The lies came from the WHO, the CDC, Fauci, and the Democrat politicians and their media (ie MSM) who continually worked against the Trump admin which only exacerbated covid problems. Maybe you and other Biden followers cant see that but many people do, thus the hesitancy about receiving the vaccine, they know they haven't been getting straight answers! All the "misinformation" that was blocked by media etc some of which is now resurfacing even though it was "cancelled" while Trump was in office. For example the fact that the virus came from the wuhan lab and not the wet market. Real journalists would have actually investigated the claim as would Fauci but instead they called it misinformation and blocked people (including Chinese scientists who were working in the lab) from facebook and news etc who were telling their truths/stories. Ridiculous and bad for all of us!! Again, not surprisingly people won't believe what they are being told about the virus/vaccine. Sheesh, get over Trump already!!
You couldnt be more wrong!! The lies came from the WHO, the CDC, Fauci, and the Democrat politicians and their media (ie MSM) who continually worked against the Trump admin which only exacerbated covid problems. Maybe you and other Biden followers cant see that but many people do, thus the hesitancy about receiving the vaccine, they know they haven't been getting straight answers! All the "misinformation" that was blocked by media etc some of which is now resurfacing even though it was "cancelled" while Trump was in office. For example the fact that the virus came from the wuhan lab and not the wet market. RealjournalistswouldhaveactuallyinvestigatedtheclaimaswouldFaucibutinsteadtheycalleditmisinformationandblockedpeople (includingChinesescientistswhowereworkinginthelab) fromfacebook and news etc who were telling their truths/stories. Ridiculous and bad for all of us!! Again, not surprisingly people won't believe what they are being told about the virus/vaccine. Sheesh, get over Trump already!!
Fauci blocked Chinese scientists from facebook? Or the unreal journalists did? How does that work? ? I thought only facebook themselves could do that? Have they actually done that (blocked Chinese scientists)?
The Chinese government could police the internet in China. But Fauci?
Vaccine hesitancy and vaccine disinformation is a problem globally. American partisan politics may have had an impact in the U.S. but it doesn’t explain the same phenomenon being seen worldwide. We have anti-vaxxers on all continents, even though they appear to be somewhat unevenly distributed.
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I can't take you serious.