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I would really like to know how you believe Obama care will affect the medical field and be honest. I would expect that it would create more jobs but the work would be very tiring. There would be no 3/12 but 4/12 or 3/15 with rooming/bedding at hospital.

Specializes in Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical.

Actual text of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

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Specializes in Critical Care.
death panel care means "rationing". Some people get life saving procedures and others do not. Remember the little girl who was initially denied a life saving lung transplant ? In the future public outcry will have NO bearing on final decisions.

This has no basis in reality. Rationing is when we limit the availability of a service regardless of whether or not it would benefit someone. Our system has always rationed due to lack of access for many people. If anything, Obamacare reduces the rationing our system creates by potentially increasing access; less rationing, not more.

There is the IPAB, which doesn't actually even exist and per Obamacare won't be triggered until we are a few short years from sinking under the weight of a wasteful healthcare system. But even then the IPAB won't ration, they will be legally prohibited from doing anything that could be considered rationing. There only purpose will be to cut wasteful spending; spending on care that has been well proven to have no purpose or benefit, which is really what the primary focus should be right now, because without cutting wasteful spending ASAP, we might see true rationing in the future.

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I will say that I do hate the fact that each state gets to choose whether to take Medicare money to help fund state exchanges and people falling into the poverty line to qualify for Medicare insurance for little to no costs. My state will not be taking the money and so we will continue to come in last or almost last for health care in this country. Thankfully, we will be moving to a state that does believe that everyone should have affordable health care in about 3 years. I'm one of the haves, but it hurts my heart to see the ones that fall through the cracks. My son and daughter-in-law have/had full-time jobs. My son went to college. They pay their bills and stay out of debt. My DIL fell and knew she had really hurt herself. Doctors won't see you without insurance and they didn't want the expense of the ER so she pushed through. Now that my son joined the military they have insurance. She had several broken ribs and some other issues. It is now taking a ton of doctors visits, lab/X-ray, and therapy to fix her issues. If they had had access to insurance then it wouldn't be so costly now. Of course they don't pay a dime but someone does.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
death panel care means "rationing". Some people get life saving procedures and others do not. Remember the little girl who was initially denied a life saving lung transplant ? In the future public outcry will have NO bearing on final decisions.

I wish it was illegal to post such inflammatory, based-upon-nothing statements. It's so sad that some folks out there will believe this.

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

I wish it was illegal to post such inflammatory, based-upon-nothing statements. It's so sad that some folks out there will believe this.

Say it enough times and it becomes true!

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Do you believe this? cause I don't.

Cost of ObamaCare: Obama Care Cost

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
Do you believe this? cause I don't.

Cost of ObamaCare: Obama Care Cost

OP, it's in everyone's best interests to read the ACA (link given in previous post) and form their own yay or nay opinions based upon the facts.

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Specializes in Critical Care.
Do you believe this? cause I don't.

Cost of ObamaCare: Obama Care Cost

There is a wide array of topics on that site, including cost/cost savings breakdowns of various aspects of the ACA, which part are you referring to?

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There is a wide array of topics on that site, including cost/cost savings breakdowns of various aspects of the ACA, which part are you referring to?

The part the link was

The cost of Obamacare. Just read the page that the link brought you to.

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Specializes in Critical Care.
The part the link was

The cost of Obamacare. Just read the page that the link brought you to.

It's all fairly accurate. It reduces the future burden on the deficit, effectively caps the cost of insurance at 9.5% of income, etc.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

The part the link was

The cost of Obamacare. Just read the page that the link brought you to.

I'll rather read unfiltered information...one page is too filtered for me.

I second choosing the link to the ACTUAL ACA bill. :yes:

Unfiltered and open for all to decide...

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Hey trust me, there will be no rationing of care for the people exempt from this debacle. The following is from Forbes, a publication noted for their ability to print lies : ObamaCare supporters are now waging a high-profile public relations campaign to make medical rationing palatable to the general public.

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Have been saying this until one is blue in the face; you cannot have "universal healthcare" and or major federal government involvement in healthcare without rationing. I don't care what you call it or now the scheme is done the result will be the same; person or persons are going to set parameters as to what will and won't be covered.

Capping premiums and otherwise leaning on private insurers will only go but so far in bending the healthcare cost curve. Ditto with putting the screws to hospitals and providers. However the fact remains much of the healthcare spending in the United States is consumer driven. Patients request, demand, submit to or whatever far too many tests, treatments and or procedures than is medically prudent. Much of this spending goes towards persons in the last third of their lives such as the elderly and or those with mortal illness.

This brings up another point: Americans on average are very uncomfortable about death. They often simply refuse to believe that *modern medical science* cannot arrest, reverse and or cure. While it is true that this or that new or experimental treatment can save or prolong life, usually odds aren't that great.

In previous generations we had "rationing" of medical care, it just wasn't put that way. If one had a mortal illness and truly nothing could be done physician sat you and or your family down with the instructions to "go home and put your affairs in order". As the disease progressed everything was done to make patient comfortable and allow them to live out the remainder of their days in peace.

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