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I would really like to know how you believe Obama care will affect the medical field and be honest. I would expect that it would create more jobs but the work would be very tiring. There would be no 3/12 but 4/12 or 3/15 with rooming/bedding at hospital.

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Nancy Pelosi said we had to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it. Obama said he would hold the hearings on the bill open to the public on C-span, but he did NOT make that happen. Everything waS done behind closed doors.

Who knows what is in the Law? Congress didn't when they voted for it. The devil is in the details, and I think we are in for a rude awakening. Of course, nurses pay and everything else will be dictated by the government.

OMG - please understand what you're talking about before you post it.

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.

You proved you first statement wrong with your next statement:

That was a classic example of politics!

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Why is it that, other countries Single Payer Government Health, system can work so well, but no one thinks that America can do just as good a job?

Why are the citizens of other countries, not revolting against their health care system, and fighting to get ours, if ours is so great?

Because, with the faults of a single payer system, it is still vastly better than the overpriced, mess, that we have now in the USA.

They have found a way to make it work, and I am confident that we can too. Give it time.

Now, do I think the concept of having American still enslaved to Insurance Companies is a good idea? No. Single payer system is like the elephant in the room. It was never even discussed. Americans are going to have to fight for it. Politicians have been bought and paid for by lobbyists, and they are unfortunately, fighting for THEM, instead of the citizens who elected them. Insurance companies are fighting to maintain the status quo.

It is a shame, but true. There are organizations that are forming to remove the issue of un elected lobbyists, determing public policy in this country. We have to support these organizations to move forward.

JMHO and my NY $0.02

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN (ret)

Somewhere in the PACNW

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

:yes: @ lindarn...agreed!!!

There are many nurses in support of the single payer system, and helping to assist in ACA expansions; my state was VERY successful in changing our governors mind. The power of the informed public AND NURSES side by side. It IS happening! :yes:

Now...one state at a time...

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I do with that it wasn't so complicated that nobody really understood exactly what is going on with it.

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One can only hope. Looking at the state of new grads. :no:

Hey now!!!

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Why are the citizens of other countries, not revolting against their health care system, and fighting to get ours, if ours is so great?

*** Lol! A GREAT question.

Politicians have been bought and paid for by lobbyists, and they are unfortunately, fighting for THEM, instead of the citizens who elected them. Insurance companies are fighting to maintain the status quo.

*** It's actually worse than that. In addition the to lobbyists pro single payers advocates must also fight strong grass roots resistance to single payers by a vast number of ordinary working Americans. As we have seen in our recent history people, but Americans in particular, are very gullible and easily fooled by even clumsy propaganda.

If you haven't read the book "What's The Matter With Kansas" I recommend it.

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If Tennessee opts out of the Affordable Care Act, voters may have good reason to feel sick | Cover Story | Nashville SceneThis may explain the hospital layoffs in Tennessee. I have a feeling that the hospitals for these states are going to start a lobby of their own. This article made some really good points about the states that have chosen to opt out. First of all these states are going to pay for the ACA with their taxes whether they take the money or not. These state representatives know this and have made the decision to opt out anyway. So now Tennessee will not have the extra money to help their own citizens get health insurance, they have put a hardship on medical businesses to do business, and in the end they are going to help fund the states that did opt in to fund their citizens. Wow! Just Wow! Unfortunately, my state is right there with them.
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IIRC single payer was on the table early in Obamacare discussions but Obama and the Democrats believed it would simply be too heavy a lift so they went in another direction.

The heavy lifting would come because large numbers of Americans already have health insurance and are quite happy, thank you very much. Democrats were afraid that any alteration that stirred up that base would leave Obama and them open to charges of "socialism" and or proposing a federal government takeover of the private healthcare system. That is more than enough for many to pull their ears back.

Universal health works in many other countries because the populace in good majority believes in the basic premise that healthcare should be open to *everyone* and are willing to accept whatever costs and or limitations that come with the scheme. It would be very difficult for any such consensus to be reached politically in the United States on the federal level much less most states to propose a sweeping universal health scheme.

The other point is no other country the size of the United States in terms of population has a federal universal health scheme. We do have Medicare which works well enough, but the population is limited to a certain demographic. Medicaid is run by states with some federal funding which in theory helps keep some of the costs down.

Best option for universal health is at the state level similar to what Mr. Romney did (and quickly ran away from) in Massachusetts.

States have far more powers over healthcare within their borders than the federal government. Remember parts of Obamacare only squeeked by because it was declared a tax by the SCOTUS, something Obama and Democrats initially and up until then clearly stated it was not.

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I wonder how many people who are against Obamacare have family members whose health has been negatively affected by a lack of health insurance. That's not meant to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious.

People talk about these things like they have an intricate understanding of economics. Nobody knows exactly what the effects will be, but health insurance in the United States is pathetic, especially considering we are one of the wealthiest nations in the world. Something needed to be done.

It won't be perfect. How could something so complicated be immediately flawless before it's been given some time? I'm just thankful that someone finally took this step.

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