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Coronavirus and Pay

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Hello Everybody,

I expect the working conditions to deteriorate soon. I do not feel we are compensated enough for what this epidemic will bring. My childcare cost will go up providing anybody wants to watch my kids knowing I take care of very sick people.

Please share your thoughts on this topic. Thank you.

pixierose, BSN, RN

Specializes in ED, psych. Has 4 years experience.

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I’m going to respond in that you are stressed. I get it. However, we work in hurricanes. Snow storms. Flu outbreaks. I don’t do this as a calling; it’s a job. But it’s a job that I knew the risks. A flu pandemic (or contagious illness) isn’t something unexpected.

Take the necessary precautions. Wear your PPE. I trust my employer and hence, I’m still here. I don’t expect to be overly compensated; just protect me and I’ll protect and care for my patients (as I do everyday).

gere7404, BSN, RN, EMT-B

Specializes in Emergency Services, Cardiac Step-Down. Has 5 years experience.

We've had tons of call outs and they're relying on people coming in and picking up, I wouldn't mind seeing the incentive pay increased for that extra risk...

Schools are closed. I am loosing a babysitter. She feels it is too risky to watch our kids and come to our house. Grandparents are not watching our kids any longer for their own safety. I reached the point where I don't care about the money and the job. My biggest fear is if we both get sick, who is going to take care of the kids?

pixierose, BSN, RN

Specializes in ED, psych. Has 4 years experience.

43 minutes ago, Marianna5 said:

Schools are closed. I am loosing a babysitter. She feels it is too risky to watch our kids and come to our house. Grandparents are not watching our kids any longer for their own safety. I reached the point where I don't care about the money and the job. My biggest fear is if we both get sick, who is going to take care of the kids?

If you are in a position to leave, leave.

Many families can not; I truly feel for many; I believe 8,000 people signed up for unemployment in my state this past week. These are hard times.

I have to say, you asked about compensation initially. Now you’re saying you don’t care about the money. I get where you’re going; but make an educated, and not merely emotional, decision. It’s gotta be hard with a little one. My neighborhood has banded together; NextDoor has really exploded with kind offers. Explore the options.

Kitiger, RN

Specializes in Private Duty Pediatrics. Has 40 years experience.

Do you have any nurse friends with kids? Maybe you could band together? At least you would be more likely to have someone who understands infection control.

The medical students here have banded together to offer all kinds of services while their clinicals have been suspended but they are staying on campus in case of disaster (which we are rapidly heading for). They are doing child care, errands, elder care, etc. Personally I think it's brilliant plus it fulfills their volunteer requirement.

Trump is going to Yang the population...expect some cash

Sorry, I am feeling very stressed out right now. My husband works at the ED. I am a cancer survivor. We do have mortgage, etc.

I do believe the employers should offer not only reassurance but pay increase depending on work load and workman's compensation for people who get sick.

pixierose, BSN, RN

Specializes in ED, psych. Has 4 years experience.

14 minutes ago, Marianna5 said:

Sorry, I am feeling very stressed out right now. My husband works at the ED. I am a cancer survivor. We do have mortgage, etc.

I do believe the employers should offer not only reassurance but pay increase depending on work load and workman's compensation for people who get sick.

I get it. I absolutely get it. It’s ... not a good feeling. You’re not alone out there. I’m all for the pay increase ... for the mail man and grocery workers too. This sucks.

There’s a lot of good suggestions out there. I hope you find something that works for you and your family.

No pay increases for staff. Kind of sucks that travel nursing is booming right now as hospitals try to muscle up, and supply and demand means pay is going up. I'd like to take advantage of that (I'm already a traveler), but the pandemic means elective surgeries are going to drop off a cliff and the OR is my specialty. But most specialties are in big demand.

Greetings fellow nurses! I work for a large hospital in NC and they are utilizing "Pop-Up Daycares" to assist in caring for the children and older adult population of our essential bed-side nurses.

They have requested nurses who are willing to come back to the bedside to do so, from admissions/discharge assistance to NT's and RN's.

I work on the Pulmonary Progressive unit for a very large hospital. We have been short-staffed since we went Progressive, changed from "step-down" 3 pts per RN to 5 pts per RN. Unless you are an ICU RN, then you do not have to take more than 4 pt.s on our unit. I am just outside my first year of nursing and I am expected to care for 5 pts. It doesn't make sense when I get pt. report from a 17-year Cardiac ICU RN veteran who feels "unsafe" with 4 pts. yet the unit gives me 5 patients.

I definitely feel I am on the Front lines and in the Hot Zone. I am one of the lowest-paid employees with the least amount of experience expected to handle and care for more pt's who have the highest likely-hood of the very virus shutting down the country...really?

I am not even ACLS certified yet. The Residency Program messed up scheduling and never bothered to get me the education for a multitude of certifications usually attained during the program. I've been waiting for a class.

I know how to do the PPE and how to follow the CDC Guidelines. The virus is not my issue, it is the already existing nursing shortage that is about to become exponentially worse that will push me into taking on more than I can handle safely with no options. If coverage doesn't show up, I am still under a duty to care. How long do I have to stay, is there a limit? What if there are nurses call out and my pt load becomes 6 or even 7 progressive pts? Not to mention the NT shortage, so then I have to do the toileting, VS's, glucose checks, etc. It is simply not possible. I am not above any of it, I physically cannot do it all alone for that level of acuity. It is not just me either, we have more new RN's than experienced ones on our unit.

I need to know my rights and at what point can I say this is unsafe and I will not jeopardize my patients, myself or my license. I searched NCBON to no avail. Like most resources out there, I haven't had enough time to learn how to research and learn where to find things or even the right questions to ask.

murseman24, MSN, CRNA

Specializes in anesthesiology.

There are travel ICU nurse positions now offering 4k/week in heavily infected areas

ICUnurse990, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 7 years experience.

I wonder about this too. I’m a clinical nurse manager in an ICU. My staff will, at minimum, get overtime for any extra hours they work. No discussion of hazard pay/crisis pay yet, but my hospital system already has incentive pay that’s used if we’re really short staffed.

As a manager, I fully expect be at the hospital well over 40 hours a week, probably taking patient assignments if this goes the way I think it will. But since I’m salaried, it will all be part of my “normal job duties” for which I’m paid a set amount. Not that it’s all about the money, but...

On 3/18/2020 at 12:14 AM, Cozy LifeRN said:

Greetings fellow nurses! I work for a large hospital in NC and they are utilizing "Pop-Up Daycares" to assist in caring for the children and older adult population of our essential bed-side nurses.

They have requested nurses who are willing to come back to the bedside to do so, from admissions/discharge assistance to NT's and RN's.

I work on the Pulmonary Progressive unit for a very large hospital. We have been short-staffed since we went Progressive, changed from "step-down" 3 pts per RN to 5 pts per RN. Unless you are an ICU RN, then you do not have to take more than 4 pt.s on our unit. I am just outside my first year of nursing and I am expected to care for 5 pts. It doesn't make sense when I get pt. report from a 17-year Cardiac ICU RN veteran who feels "unsafe" with 4 pts. yet the unit gives me 5 patients.

I definitely feel I am on the Front lines and in the Hot Zone. I am one of the lowest-paid employees with the least amount of experience expected to handle and care for more pt's who have the highest likely-hood of the very virus shutting down the country...really?

I am not even ACLS certified yet. The Residency Program messed up scheduling and never bothered to get me the education for a multitude of certifications usually attained during the program. I've been waiting for a class.

I know how to do the PPE and how to follow the CDC Guidelines. The virus is not my issue, it is the already existing nursing shortage that is about to become exponentially worse that will push me into taking on more than I can handle safely with no options. If coverage doesn't show up, I am still under a duty to care. How long do I have to stay, is there a limit? What if there are nurses call out and my pt load becomes 6 or even 7 progressive pts? Not to mention the NT shortage, so then I have to do the toileting, VS's, glucose checks, etc. It is simply not possible. I am not above any of it, I physically cannot do it all alone for that level of acuity. It is not just me either, we have more new RN's than experienced ones on our unit.

I need to know my rights and at what point can I say this is unsafe and I will not jeopardize my patients, myself or my license. I searched NCBON to no avail. Like most resources out there, I haven't had enough time to learn how to research and learn where to find things or even the right questions to ask.

Talk to your nurse manager or director, and advocate for your patients’ safety! Y’all to her just like you’re talking to a doc, and use your sbar.

”I feel unsafe”

“I am very concerned”

can you go in overtime and complete ACLS? what support can they provide you with to help you right now?

What are they gonna do? Fire you??? Stand up for your patients’ safety.

OUxPhys, BSN, RN

Specializes in Cardiology. Has 4 years experience.

On 3/18/2020 at 12:14 AM, Cozy LifeRN said:

Greetings fellow nurses! I work for a large hospital in NC and they are utilizing "Pop-Up Daycares" to assist in caring for the children and older adult population of our essential bed-side nurses.

They have requested nurses who are willing to come back to the bedside to do so, from admissions/discharge assistance to NT's and RN's.

I work on the Pulmonary Progressive unit for a very large hospital. We have been short-staffed since we went Progressive, changed from "step-down" 3 pts per RN to 5 pts per RN. Unless you are an ICU RN, then you do not have to take more than 4 pt.s on our unit. I am just outside my first year of nursing and I am expected to care for 5 pts. It doesn't make sense when I get pt. report from a 17-year Cardiac ICU RN veteran who feels "unsafe" with 4 pts. yet the unit gives me 5 patients.

I definitely feel I am on the Front lines and in the Hot Zone. I am one of the lowest-paid employees with the least amount of experience expected to handle and care for more pt's who have the highest likely-hood of the very virus shutting down the country...really?

I am not even ACLS certified yet. The Residency Program messed up scheduling and never bothered to get me the education for a multitude of certifications usually attained during the program. I've been waiting for a class.

I know how to do the PPE and how to follow the CDC Guidelines. The virus is not my issue, it is the already existing nursing shortage that is about to become exponentially worse that will push me into taking on more than I can handle safely with no options. If coverage doesn't show up, I am still under a duty to care. How long do I have to stay, is there a limit? What if there are nurses call out and my pt load becomes 6 or even 7 progressive pts? Not to mention the NT shortage, so then I have to do the toileting, VS's, glucose checks, etc. It is simply not possible. I am not above any of it, I physically cannot do it all alone for that level of acuity. It is not just me either, we have more new RN's than experienced ones on our unit.

I need to know my rights and at what point can I say this is unsafe and I will not jeopardize my patients, myself or my license. I searched NCBON to no avail. Like most resources out there, I haven't had enough time to learn how to research and learn where to find things or even the right questions to ask.

That's where they get you. Simply changing the name from "step-down" to "Progressive Care" and it results as an increase in pts even though they are the exact same pts. My hospital (much like many) have screwed this up from the get go and I'm curious to see what they will do going forward.

RN-to- BSN, ADN, RN

Specializes in SCRN. Has 7 years experience.

I wonder how safe are these "pop-up daycares"? Who is caring for children? How do I know if they are any good, have child CPR? How do they keep track of them? I feel like I would be worried if my kid is even accounted for while there. Unfamiliar faces, total chaos. No, thank you. I rather call in.

My school district allowed to have a temporary daycare run in their preschool building until 03/27 for my hospital and another one in the area, we received just a general info via email of max capacity, meals offered, temperature and symptoms check of kids and parents upon arrival. But the questions above went unanswered. THAT information is a big deal to me. I am not going to leave my kid with who knows what kind of caretaker and go to work. Thank goodness my regular, payed daycare is still open.

Edited by RN-to- BSN

KCMnurse, BSN, MSN, RN

Specializes in Educator. Has 37 years experience.

38 minutes ago, RN-to- BSN said:

I wonder how safe are these "pop-up daycares"? Who is caring for children? How do I know if they are any good, have child CPR? How do they keep track of them? I feel like I would be worried if my kid is even accounted for while there. Unfamiliar faces, total chaos. No, thank you. I rather call in.

My school district allowed to have a temporary daycare run in their preschool building until 03/27 for my hospital and another one in the area, we received just a general info via email of max capacity, meals offered, temperature and symptoms check of kids and parents upon arrival. But the questions above went unanswered. THAT information is a big deal to me. I am not going to leave my kid with who knows what kind of caretaker and go to work. Thank goodness my regular, payed daycare is still open.

This is a rapidly evolving situation and we are in uncharted waters for the most part. Not everyone is able to 'call in' and each parent has to decide what type of child care situation is palatable to them. Just because it is a 'pop up' daycare does not mean that it will be chaotic. there is nothing to stop you from asking further questions regarding the staff credentialing and experience.

If this situation continues for the foreseeable future (which it looks like it will) parents will need to make decisions that work for them and their family situation.