Comparing how news media headlines and reports on the same story

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There is allot of discussion on news media bias. I thought I would start a topic dedicated to this. I find the best way to gather information of any topic is to read various sources of different political leanings. 

To start the conversation, I'll submitt this news story. 

A headline from Fox News and one from MDNSBC. Note the different headlines and contents. 

https://www.MSN.com/en-gb/news/world/doctor-struck-by-car-while-biking-before-driver-got-out-and-stabbed-him-to-death-police-say/ar-AA175gIR?li=BBoPWjQ

https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspect-accused-stabbing-california-doctor-death-spoke-white-privilege-during-attack-witness-says

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yes, that's the headline that you said was less biased and using less sensationalism.  Headlines are a focus of this thread and of your comments.  

Both articles offer unflattering characterizations of Trump. One of the articles has a subjective word in the headline and it's the article you defined as less biased.  

Comparatively, NYT article that troubles you said this. 

Maybe you could quote the language in the NYT article that makes it an example of biased reporting rather than just telling us your thoughts about the article as a whole. 

I already explained and this is why I can't quote: 

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Well thank you for noting my opinion repeatedly... but I'd rather that you quoted the language from the content of the article that represents the bias.  You made this article a example but you haven't specified what in the article is an example of the bias that this thread is about.  

I've noted and accepted your opinion on your topic over and over...I asking you for examples from the article of the bias.  At this point I suspect that you simply cannot point to any specific passage or paragraph that represents the bias that you claimed. Otherwise you would have quoted it for discussion by now. 

Wish to explain why you could not quote my words when you made false assumptions about what I said? Perhaps we should have a discussion on hypocrisy instead? 

The reason I cannot not quote is because I have no more free views on NYT. 

Or should I just say, "I'm not playing that game?"Seemed good enough for you when you were unable to back up your claims of me saying something. By quoting my exact word. You never did explain that.... And the last time I checked there was no payment required on AN.

Or should I say what another member said, " I'm not playing dueling citations with you"? I'll leave out the personal insults that followed that members refusal. 

 

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subee said:

It's not bias if a story is true.  I just have the feeling that if you had a sense of pre-World War  II, you would have reported stories unfavorable to Hitler as "biased".  Could you look for a more worthy Republican who you believe is being treated unfairly?  Some who isn't morally bankrupt and treats almost everyone he or she knows unfairly?

Wow. What a excellent example of blatant disingenuous hyperbole. To somehow suggest that I would have an opinion that was unfavorable about Hitler as "biased".  Based on your "feelings". Pulling out the big guns are ya? It's fine to not agree with me but im wondering why you would imply such a assumption without a shred of evidence. I considered this article as biased so I would consider something is biased about Hitler? Really? Let me guess, you think Trump is "like totally Hitler"? Based on this comment I wouldn't be surprised. 

I never said any republican was being treated unfairly. Again, a great example of missing the point because you see Trump and get excited and think I am saying something I am not. I was talking about media bias. Not TRUMP, not Republicans and not Hitler. 

You can present the truth and be bias. It's not the same as lying. Refere to Allsides media bias. 

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Quite the spamfest.

Google  "ABC news is bing too belligerent?”. Also Google "Lithuanian chatbot misinformation"

Given the iffy command of the English language, the minuscule knowledge base and the knee-jerk fact-free attacks on other users, I'm starting to wonder.

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heron said:

Quite the spamfest. Google  "ABC news is bing too belligerent?”. Also Google "Lithuanian chatbot misinformation"

Given the iffy command of the English language, the minuscule k owl edge base and the knee-jerk fact-free attacks on other users, I'm starting to wonder.

While you sling personal insults or "attacks" .... Rich. 

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Roitrn said:

Wow. What a excellent example of blatant disingenuous hyperbole. To somehow suggest that I would have an opinion that was unfavorable about Hitler as "biased".  Based on your "feelings". Pulling out the big guns are ya? It's fine to not agree with me but im wondering why you would imply such a assumption without a shred of evidence. I considered this article as biased so I would consider something is biased about Hitler? Really? Let me guess, you think Trump is "like totally Hitler"? Based on this comment I wouldn't be surprised. 

I never said any republican was being treated unfairly. Again, a great example of missing the point because you see Trump and get excited and think I am saying something I am not. I was talking about media bias. Not TRUMP, not Republicans and not Hitler. 

You can present the truth and be bias. It's not the same as lying. Refere to Allsides media bias. 

They are obtuse and disingenuous on purpose. They hardly ever have a real discussion as I am sure you have noticed by now. Just disregard by claiming bad source, use personal attacks etc. It is pretty pathetic. 

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Here is a good example of bias reporting by ABC news. They do not state the fact that bystander shot the guy (who already shot others) with a gun he was carrying (which probably saved lives of other bystanders), do not state the perpetrators (Hispanic) name but instead ramble on about the fact that the mall was close to another shooting that was racist against Hispanics.  Yeah no agenda here by ABC (sarcasm)! 
 

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-mall-shooting-started-fight-groups-97266993

 

https://elpasomatters.org/2023/02/17/bystander-ended-cielo-vista-mall-shooting-police-say/

forgot to add that the ABC article was published by AP, one of the news organizations that some here think do not lean left. 

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Daisy4RN said:

They are obtuse and disingenuous on purpose. They hardly ever have a real discussion as I am sure you have noticed by now. Just disregard by claiming bad source, use personal attacks etc. It is pretty pathetic. 

Yes. I have noticed. Misrepresentation of comments, hypocrisy and failure to live up to their own standards. Their opinions are awarded as self grandiose pillars of undisputed  "facts".  

It escalates in references to anything about Trump. Trump hysteria!

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Daisy4RN said:

Here is a good example of bias reporting by ABC news. They do not state the fact that bystander shot the guy (who already shot others) with a gun he was carrying (which probably saved lives of other bystanders), do not state the perpetrators (Hispanic) name but instead ramble on about the fact that the mall was close to another shooting that was racist against Hispanics.  Yeah no agenda here by ABC (sarcasm)! 
 

 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-mall-shooting-started-fight-groups-97266993

 

https://elpasomatters.org/2023/02/17/bystander-ended-cielo-vista-mall-shooting-police-say/

Yes. I agree. The part in the ABC story did not need to add that this occurred  accross in the same parking lot of a "racist" shooting several years ago. 

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The shooting broke out in a busy shopping area and across a large parking lot from a Walmart where 23 people were killed in a racist attack targeting Hispanic people in 2019. El Paso — with a largely Latino population of about 700,000 people — sits on the U.S. border with Mexico, where residents of both countries cross frequently.

It mentions guns and gun laws several times. It seems it's more like a political policy promotion about guns control than the actual story. 

The 2nd story was more balanced. 

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Roitrn said:

Yes. I have noticed. Misrepresentation of comments, hypocrisy and failure to live up to their own standards. Their opinions are awarded as self grandiose pillars of undisputed  "facts".  

It escalates in references to anything about Trump. Trump hysteria!

You are correct but IMO "it escalates in reference to anything Trump" is putting it mildly! And been going on since at least 2016. 

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More spam. Sigh!

Recommended reading:

"Why Liberals Win the Culture Wars (even when they lose elections) The Battles That Define America from Jefferson's Heresies to Gay Marriage" by Stephen Prothero, available on Amazon and audiobooks.

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Daisy4RN said:

They are obtuse and disingenuous on purpose. They hardly ever have a real discussion as I am sure you have noticed by now. Just disregard by claiming bad source, use personal attacks etc. It is pretty pathetic. 

Imagine complaining about disingenuous behavior and personal attacks by saying that the members that you disagree with are annoying or slow learners.  It's almost like you forgot that you weren't in a private chat, where that would be perfectly acceptable, and are in a thread... where It's not.  

Stick to the topic or take it private. That's the TOS.

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