I know I placed this under nursing and am aware I'm not a nurse but on NcBon so I hope this ok.
Idk where to start (drained). Long story short. Rn Supervisor is bad management here is why.
Memory Care: I approached a med tech with a oral chief complaint from a resident with chest pain. Bp 180/53. She walked off & took it again, said nothing did nothing. He continued with pain she did nothing. I asked her what she was going to do? She said he has heart burn.
2 days later a cna-med texh known bully comes up to me and says " I heard your a liar, and you dont know how to take a bp"? I was speechless. I said well too much & I know this now. But I said & if this other med - tech felt this why are you in here telling me not her. Drama*
2 days later the SAME resident complains of chest pain. Guess what I got the same BP this time different med tech and off he went with a nitro to Ed.
I find out later this original med-tech NEVER charted what I told her. Nothing, zip! I contacted my supervisor on a Sunday k. That same night one of the main bully's I can't find ..hmm guess where she was..in a residents room laying in her recycler chair, watching tv while the resident was on the couch in our main living room.
Monday comes & I still dont hear from Rn and other girls start giving me dirty looks, making stuff up drama*
Next, I see the Rn. Guess what she does. A big group meeting in the SAME AREA where ALL our memory care residents are walking around ok! Saying..NOTHING TO ME? NOTHING?
At her meeting she says nobody should be texting me on a Sun, no drama, bla, bla. I couldn't believe it!
I ended up telling her I will not work the same shifts with a med tech who puts a life at risk on my clock! I will not work with the other ine who sleeps on job in others room and talks about everyone. She said to bad see you tomorriw basically. I told her I wouldn't be showing and walked out.
Idk if this place is all in this together but now I have the DON involved who has put me on a different floor, and while getting there the bully is witnessed in the hallway by others threatening to take me outside and kick my a** in the facility.
Still nothing day 4 days later???? Investigation? And nobody has been fired, nothing? Not even after threatening me? I KNOW this floor is very, very short staffed atm and that is the only reason I am assuming heads aren't rolling? Even though how about this Rn and how she dealt with this?
What am I missing I feel like a deer in the headlights.
What did I do wrong.
Am I suppose to never SPEAK UP FOR MY PATIENTS-RESIDENTS? THIS is insanity
But what if a patient had a BP 180/53 and you find out the oral report was never charted & a day later he ens up in Ed. Nurse sleeping in patients beds while not working, leaving for an hour leaving us while she is suppose to be aupervising us?
She put patients at risk.. I don't understand. No this highschool mentality.. Priorities and pt's first?
I'm lost. Plus they all talk about each other daily.it's ridiculous..
Do I just say nothing? Ignore it. Put pt's at risk?
A report to the BON is a very serious proposal. By reporting you are putting the nurse at risk of loosing there ability to earn. (I realize that bad or addicted nurses place themselves in this situation, but just follow me here) it leaves them with the debt and bills associate with the earning power they will now be denied. Even if the nurse liscense is not revoked a disciplinary action stays visible forever, twenty years from the action a nurse will still be explaining it to employers. It's very very serious and so many believe that reporting should be reserved for very serious offenses and after all other options have been exhausted.
Being brought before the board is just as serious appearing in court but the same standards of evidence and right to face your accuser do not apply. The criminal justice system is built around the concept that it's better to let one hundred guily men free than convict one innocent one. However BON disciplinary hearings are out to protect the public, without regard for the accused. Even if the charge is successfully defended the cost of hiring a lawyer and being suspended from work pending the investigation can be financially ruinous.
Can reporting to the board backfire? Yes, if you reported her you may report me. Unless the need to report is beyond doubt, and even then it will make other coworker and employers leery. Should you report a particular nurse? I couldn't tell you, but it doesn't sound like you have exercised a lot of other options for addressing the situation. I just want to provide you perspective on how serious a BON report is.
If you want actual advice you need to provide lots of details and more than one hundred words that can be more easily understood.
OP, I went back and read some of your previous posts/threads. Is this taking place in the same facility where you were a student?
I know this is in the North Carolina section, but I am not from there so I am not familiar with the legalities or intricacies of such facilities. Also most people here likely work in facilities where nurses are part of the staff organization 24/7. All that to say that telling *us* to research things even you admit confuse you will not win you points.
From your posting history, you seem to have had previous issues with co-workers -were you ever able to get through those?
I'm a little confused by your being a "former" LPN per your member profile, but did you feel that a call to 911 was perhaps necessary if you felt pt was not getting proper medical assistance?
Is this facility considered assisted living? That's the only way I can see not having a licensed nurse on site - med techs do not hold a license.
I'm just going to admit this whole thing has me scratching my head...
I have also read your other posts, after I made my last reply. It would be my impression that your main issue is with a facility, a med tech, and a for profit school, and now a nurse. Although it's a little confusing still because you have previously said that the med tech was doing some the the things your now accusing a nurse of doing. Anyhow this all seems to stem from an incident where you reported an abnormal vital sign and it was not charted or acted upon. If that's the case then you are in a he said she said situation, your going to have a hard time PROOVING that what you said happened and that no action was taken. My advice is to remove yourself from the situation, make a report to an ombudsman and drop it.
I'm scratching my head too, for a different reason. I don't understand why the OP doesn't just quit.
I know jobs are hard to find, and nobody wants to start over from scratch somewhere else. I get all that.
But all facilities have a flow, and a way they work. It doesn't matter it it's a hospital or a nursing home. What the OP describes to us is awful care, but normal for the long time employees. They don't see anything wrong with the way they work, and aren't going to take kindly to the new kid telling them there is.
I'd recommend you just quit before you get fired, because as someone looking in, I can guarantee that's where you're going.
But what if a patient had a BP 180/53 and you find out the oral report was never charted & a day later he ens up in Ed. Nurse sleeping in patients beds while not working, leaving for an hour leaving us while she is suppose to be aupervising us?
She put patients at risk.. I don't understand. No this highschool mentality.. Priorities and pt's first?
I'm lost. Plus they all talk about each other daily.it's ridiculous..
Do I just say nothing? Ignore it. Put pt's at risk?
How would you handle it?
I thought you said there were no nurses?
I really am having trouble understanding this post.
chicsurfs, LPN
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Can backfire if it's indeed a legit reson with proof. Patients safety first? How can this backfire?
Thank you.