I know I placed this under nursing and am aware I'm not a nurse but on NcBon so I hope this ok.
Idk where to start (drained). Long story short. Rn Supervisor is bad management here is why.
Memory Care: I approached a med tech with a oral chief complaint from a resident with chest pain. Bp 180/53. She walked off & took it again, said nothing did nothing. He continued with pain she did nothing. I asked her what she was going to do? She said he has heart burn.
2 days later a cna-med texh known bully comes up to me and says " I heard your a liar, and you dont know how to take a bp"? I was speechless. I said well too much & I know this now. But I said & if this other med - tech felt this why are you in here telling me not her. Drama*
2 days later the SAME resident complains of chest pain. Guess what I got the same BP this time different med tech and off he went with a nitro to Ed.
I find out later this original med-tech NEVER charted what I told her. Nothing, zip! I contacted my supervisor on a Sunday k. That same night one of the main bully's I can't find ..hmm guess where she was..in a residents room laying in her recycler chair, watching tv while the resident was on the couch in our main living room.
Monday comes & I still dont hear from Rn and other girls start giving me dirty looks, making stuff up drama*
Next, I see the Rn. Guess what she does. A big group meeting in the SAME AREA where ALL our memory care residents are walking around ok! Saying..NOTHING TO ME? NOTHING?
At her meeting she says nobody should be texting me on a Sun, no drama, bla, bla. I couldn't believe it!
I ended up telling her I will not work the same shifts with a med tech who puts a life at risk on my clock! I will not work with the other ine who sleeps on job in others room and talks about everyone. She said to bad see you tomorriw basically. I told her I wouldn't be showing and walked out.
Idk if this place is all in this together but now I have the DON involved who has put me on a different floor, and while getting there the bully is witnessed in the hallway by others threatening to take me outside and kick my a** in the facility.
Still nothing day 4 days later???? Investigation? And nobody has been fired, nothing? Not even after threatening me? I KNOW this floor is very, very short staffed atm and that is the only reason I am assuming heads aren't rolling? Even though how about this Rn and how she dealt with this?
What am I missing I feel like a deer in the headlights.
What did I do wrong.
Am I suppose to never SPEAK UP FOR MY PATIENTS-RESIDENTS? THIS is insanity
A report to the BON is a very serious proposal. By reporting you are putting the nurse at risk of loosing there ability to earn. (I realize that bad or addicted nurses place themselves in this situation, but just follow me here) it leaves them with the debt and bills associate with the earning power they will now be denied. Even if the nurse liscense is not revoked a disciplinary action stays visible forever, twenty years from the action a nurse will still be explaining it to employers. It's very very serious and so many believe that reporting should be reserved for very serious offenses and after all other options have been exhausted.
Being brought before the board is just as serious appearing in court but the same standards of evidence and right to face your accuser do not apply. The criminal justice system is built around the concept that it's better to let one hundred guily men free than convict one innocent one. However BON disciplinary hearings are out to protect the public, without regard for the accused. Even if the charge is successfully defended the cost of hiring a lawyer and being suspended from work pending the investigation can be financially ruinous.
Can reporting to the board backfire? Yes, if you reported her you may report me. Unless the need to report is beyond doubt, and even then it will make other coworker and employers leery. Should you report a particular nurse? I couldn't tell you, but it doesn't sound like you have exercised a lot of other options for addressing the situation. I just want to provide you perspective on how serious a BON report is.
If you want actual advice you need to provide lots of details and more than one hundred words that can be more easily understood.
Whoa? How rude "some" can be here!! If you had of read ALL my posts you'd of seen my first language is French not English this thread has turned into a telephone game thread where one child whispers something into another childs ear and it changes at the end! Next time please read everything before assuming and putting people down for being a different culture. Do you treat your pt's like this if they can't spell or speak English?
First I never reported anything to the BON? Where did you get that? Why would I do that?
The person I reported this to was the DON not BON huge diffence =/ ummm and there was NO NURSE Rn there I've said that idk how many times now? She, was a 19 year old med tech. In NC med techs are responsible for contacting the Rn on call. She didn't do that. Nor did she chart anything. Nothing, ziltch. Which means it never happened isn't that basic nursing 101 to know this?
So if a PT has a high BP are you going to do nothing & simply walk away? Med tech, RN whomever if I've done my job & told you several times and he strokes out you betcha Id report you and those bills you have I could care less about! Are you insane?
Abyway, I didn't know she didn't do anything until the next day. My shift was over.
What ends up happening a different day on my shift again, but a different med tech..residents BP was again very high! This time the med tech made phone calls and within 30 the EMT's arrived.
This whole thread has been misread so perhaps it's my bad for thinking what I wrote made sense. My language
Is not good. I'm French. I apologize.
I reported this Med Tech and the people involved in the high school drama to the DON of the facility after I found out. And, I'd do it again I'm lost here what exactly I did so bad? Am I the only one who cares for people? As of now I coukd care less about the high school drama my concern was his vitals, and I feel I did nothing wrong. Forgive me if I come off uoset because after reading your post I'm like
Your threads were merged. I replied to a thread titled "report to BON?" Or some such title. You were asking if a report to the BON could backfire. This thread made no mention of a med tech. After replying to that thread I read this thread. The two posts were merged by the administration. If you review page one you will see a reply you made on the second thread that was moved and now seems out of place.
Your threads were merged. I replied to a thread titled "report to BON?" Or some such title. You were asking if a report to the BON could backfire. This thread made no mention of a med tech. After replying to that thread I read this thread. The two posts were merged by the administration. If you review page one you will see a reply you made on the second thread that was moved and now seems out of place.
AGAIN..go back and please "read" it says
"I'm on the BON" that woukd mean I'm registered. I'm a PCT patient care tech aka CNA 11, not a Cna 1
If you are a LPN I basically do what you do
Suctioning, catheters, wound care, extra..we work mainly in hospitals where were wanted mostly now days.. I left that place last week it was unprofessional & a temp job for me anyway until I finally got the job I applied for at a hospital. Lpn's work on the other side in assosted living and LT. Lpn's don't work in hospitals if so maybe 10% if that. It's Rn, Cna 11 aka Patient care tech
Either or I never once said I reported anyone to the BON? Cna 11's are registered on the State Board of Nursing thought as an Lpn you'd of known that? My bad
Well I personally think this mess of a thread shows why LICENSED NURSES should be in charge of patient care with aides (CNAs in LTC and PCA types in acute settings) to help with *some* aspects of patient care.
A nurse (LPN or RN depending on needs of facility) should always be on site to perform nurse tasks - deciding which, if any, PRN meds are needed or if patient requires higher level of care.
We are doing our patients/residents a disservice by having UAP "in charge"
If I lived in North Carolina I would be tempted to go through BON and my state nurse association to try to change the laws. Maybe get the media and public involved if it would help.
The public expects that they and their loved ones are being cared for by licensed health care professionals in maby settings and in fact that is often not the case.
Specializes in Oncology, Rehab, Public Health, Med Surg.
Well I personally think this mess of a thread shows why LICENSED NURSES should be in charge of patient care with aides (CNAs in LTC and PCA types in acute settings) to help with *some* aspects of patient care.
A nurse (LPN or RN depending on needs of facility) should always be on site to perform nurse tasks - deciding which, if any, PRN meds are needed or if patient requires higher level of care.
We are doing our patients/residents a disservice by having UAP "in charge"
If I lived in North Carolina I would be tempted to go through BON and my state nurse association to try to change the laws. Maybe get the media and public involved if it would help.
The public expects that they and their loved ones are being cared for by licensed health care professionals in maby settings and in fact that is often not the case.
I have to agree with this.
With all the drama going on, is anyone caring for the residents?
I'd place a call to state. You can't be a bully and a 'CNA'. File a police report and then fax/mail it to the state. See them act that way when the state investigator walks through the door.
a report to the bon is a very serious proposal. By reporting you are putting the nurse at risk of loosing there ability to earn. (i realize that bad or addicted nurses place themselves in this situation, but just follow me here) it leaves them with the debt and bills associate with the earning power they will now be denied. Even if the nurse liscense is not revoked a disciplinary action stays visible forever, twenty years from the action a nurse will still be explaining it to employers. It's very very serious and so many believe that reporting should be reserved for very serious offenses and after all other options have been exhausted.
Being brought before the board is just as serious appearing in court but the same standards of evidence and right to face your accuser do not apply. The criminal justice system is built around the concept that it's better to let one hundred guily men free than convict one innocent one. However bon disciplinary hearings are out to protect the public, without regard for the accused. Even if the charge is successfully defended the cost of hiring a lawyer and being suspended from work pending the investigation can be financially ruinous.
Can reporting to the board backfire? Yes, if you reported her you may report me. Unless the need to report is beyond doubt, and even then it will make other coworker and employers leery. Should you report a particular nurse? I couldn't tell you, but it doesn't sound like you have exercised a lot of other options for addressing the situation. I just want to provide you perspective on how serious a bon report is.
If you want actual advice you need to provide lots of details and more than one hundred words that can be more easily understood.
the nurse didn't do her job duties. A pt. Ended up in the ed. She notified the nurse. Hello?
chicsurfs, LPN
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Whoa? How rude "some" can be here!! If you had of read ALL my posts you'd of seen my first language is French not English this thread has turned into a telephone game thread where one child whispers something into another childs ear and it changes at the end! Next time please read everything before assuming and putting people down for being a different culture. Do you treat your pt's like this if they can't spell or speak English?
First I never reported anything to the BON? Where did you get that? Why would I do that?
The person I reported this to was the DON not BON huge diffence =/ ummm and there was NO NURSE Rn there I've said that idk how many times now? She, was a 19 year old med tech. In NC med techs are responsible for contacting the Rn on call. She didn't do that. Nor did she chart anything. Nothing, ziltch. Which means it never happened isn't that basic nursing 101 to know this?
So if a PT has a high BP are you going to do nothing & simply walk away? Med tech, RN whomever if I've done my job & told you several times and he strokes out you betcha Id report you and those bills you have I could care less about! Are you insane?
Abyway, I didn't know she didn't do anything until the next day. My shift was over.
What ends up happening a different day on my shift again, but a different med tech..residents BP was again very high! This time the med tech made phone calls and within 30 the EMT's arrived.
This whole thread has been misread so perhaps it's my bad for thinking what I wrote made sense. My language
Is not good. I'm French. I apologize.
I reported this Med Tech and the people involved in the high school drama to the DON of the facility after I found out. And, I'd do it again I'm lost here what exactly I did so bad? Am I the only one who cares for people? As of now I coukd care less about the high school drama my concern was his vitals, and I feel I did nothing wrong. Forgive me if I come off uoset because after reading your post I'm like
Wtheck??