Cleanliness in UK hospitals

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Just read this artcile online and was wondering what you all think of it?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_purves/article2253546.ece

I personally think the author has obvioulsy been out of the workplace for way too long and while she has a valid point re: the lack of cleanliness in UK hospitals, she is totally unaware of the pressures on the nurse working on the wards today. I, for one, am sick and tired of nurses being held accountable for all the wrong doings and lack of cleanliness in UK hospitals these days. Last year, when I was working in an A&E in England, we nurses barely had time to ensure that the essential care was given let alone follow the cleaners round to make sure they were doing their jobs to a high standard. At nights, we had no cleaners so clearing up floor messes and changing toilot rolls fell to us (not that we weren't busy trying to look after that guy having an MI in room 6....'be there in a minute...just changing some loo roll") and at the weekends we went from 2 cleaners to one who only worked half a day and we all know what an A&E department looks like at the weekend. We nurses complained constantly about the lack of cleaners and cleanliness but to no avail. The management wouldn't listen to us and were thinking of making more cuts in the cleaning department and in fact they stopped clearing trash from the non-clinical areas in order to save money and the staff in those areas had to take thier own trash out. I would like to hear less nurse bashing going on (especially by fellow nurses) and more blame being laid at the door of those who are REALLY responsible for the problem. I know that we nurses are more frustrated than anyone by these problems but are hands are tied. The managements do not listen to nurses.

Specializes in medical.

mm maybe i shouldn't have used the term deep cleaning. its things like sending nimbus mattrass for cleaning, so they can be taken apart and the cells cleaned individually. and repairing mattresses you suspect have holes in them, as the insides can become pretty grotty. i think they're maybe steam cleaned.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
mm maybe i shouldn't have used the term deep cleaning. its things like sending nimbus mattrass for cleaning, so they can be taken apart and the cells cleaned individually. and repairing mattresses you suspect have holes in them, as the insides can become pretty grotty. i think they're maybe steam cleaned.

Any mattress suspected on being like that where I used to work was just condemned and burnt. If any other type of mattress was used it was on hire and was removed once finished by the patient and cleaned by the company before reuse

Specializes in Med/surg,Tele,PACU,ER,ICU,LTAC,HH,Neuro.

Put some old drawing of the Black Death on the walls.

Tried to join Brutish Nurse Chat and there is some bug preventing me

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
Put some old drawing of the Black Death on the walls.

Tried to join Brutish Nurse Chat and there is some bug preventing me

Not sure if anyone came Tuesday night I didn't but should be there next Tuesday night and pm me if you are still having problems getting into chat

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.
Not sure if anyone came Tuesday night I didn't but should be there next Tuesday night and pm me if you are still having problems getting into chat

yep there were a few of there Tuesday, Ayla was talking about some fishy stuff :trout:

Specializes in ITU/Emergency.

I watched a tv program in the UK a few years ago and they were talking about cleanliness in hospitals (and I am sure the conclusion was its all our fault, anyway.....). The program spoke of some European country, and I think it was Germany, where the beds, fully made up and everything, come prewrapped and sterilised. So, when a patient is discharged the whole bed goes off for deep clean and comes back ready to go. Pretty cool. Their rate of MRSA was alot less than ours. Kind of interesting. I don't remember the specifics unfortantly!

Specializes in Volunterr in A&E.

I like what English nurse had to say, now just breath hun. I can't say I have had much practice on a ward as I am waiting to get a job as a helathcare assistant. However I have done some volunteer work on A&E when I was younger and I was basically used as a cleaner. I went to childs play area because the cleaners refused to tidy the toys, and frequently cleaned them as they complaind that they couldn't sweep the floor as there were too many things in there. My experience as a patient has always been reasonable if ever I saw anything dubious it ws gone by the next morning.

I know I havent started being a student nurse yet but I cannot believe the amount of critisism there is to keep everything tidy I mean if it isn't the cleaners job to clean up poo then who's is it? Are we expected to go round with a brush up our backsides so we can sweep as we go?:trout:

Specializes in med/surg.
if it isn't the cleaners job to clean up poo then who's is it? Are we expected to go round with a brush up our backsides so we can sweep as we go?:trout:

Ummmmmmmm.....let me see now......er........YES!!!!:lol2:

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
Ummmmmmmm.....let me see now......er........YES!!!!:lol2:

:rotfl:

Specializes in Nursing Home ,Dementia Care,Neurology..

--and don't forget the roller skates and the feather duster on head for high cleaning!!:lol2:

Specializes in OB, critical care, hospice, farm/industr.

Shhhhh! Puh-leeze don't give the management any ideas!

Specializes in Volunterr in A&E.

Now I'm thinkin I'd better get some practice on my roller skates just incase lol!! :idea:

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