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Charge nurse/ years of experience

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Specializes in OB.

Hi all

just wondering - in your facility, what are the requirements for charge nurse?

I work in a small LDRP unit, we have 4 main charge nurses on each shift. My manager wants to train another nurse to do charge sometimes, however this nurse only has 3 years of experience. The rest of us don't feel like it's a good idea.

So I'm curious about what other facilities are doing? Thanks?

melizerd, ASN, RN

Specializes in Med/surg, Onc.

Anyone with over a year of experience can charge on our floor. It just rotates through and everyone takes turns. No additional pay for being charge and you still take a team of patients, just 2-3 during day shift and 3-4 on PM, but a full 6 on NOCs. It works fine for us. We are a busy med/surg oncology floor.

dirtyhippiegirl, BSN, RN

Specializes in PDN; Burn; Phone triage. Has 8 years experience.

Anyone with a pulse and off orientation could charge on my old unit. High turnover burn unit with mixed acuity patients.

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in Women's Health/OB Leadership. Has 15 years experience.

When I worked inpatient OB, if you had more than a year, you could do charge. I think three years is plenty.

sistrmoon

Specializes in Oncology. Has 14 years experience.

They make them charge right out of the starting gate here, with no training or orientation and full patient load, no diff.

Morainey, BSN, RN

Specializes in Orthopedic, LTC, STR, Med-Surg, Tele.

3 years sounds like plenty of experience to me. Where I used to work you had to take a BS class (which was really just an excuse for our PhD educated nurse educator to talk about herself, unfortunately) and you got an extra $1/hour, made the assignment, assigned admissions, and were out of assignment on days and evenings.

one year experience with good knowledge of the type of patients we get, safety-minded, and the right personality.

NicuGal, MSN, RN

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PACU. Has 30 years experience.

1-2 years on the unit.

Gooselady, BSN, RN

Has 23 years experience.

1 - 2 years.

Lack of experience is an issue, but if the rest of you are on the floor, she can use any experienced charge as a resource. My last hospital job had everyone with enough experience trained to do charge, including the new-er nurses. It wasn't like they had to know everything or make all the 'charge' decisions all on their own, they could rely on the rest of us for direction when necessary.

Over 2 years. Some exceptions have been made where above satisfactory performance is the main consideration.

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

just wondering - in your facility, what are the requirements for charge nurse?
My facility has no set-in-stone requirements for charge nurse. A newish nurse with less than a year of experience could be offered the charge nurse role if (s)he makes good judgment calls and has the tendency to remain calm.

AJJKRN

Specializes in Medical-Surgical/Float Pool/Stepdown. Has 6+ years experience.

Our faculty requires that you have two out of three...a level III or more, a BSN, or an approved certification in your specialty. The levels are based on our clinical nurse ladder (all nurses regardless of experience are a level II until they go through the steps to "level" if they ever choose to, which comes with a monetary percentage pay increase each level up after II but you have to have two years experience to even be eligible to try and level), and as most are aware, you have to have at least two years of experience in your specialty before even applying to test for an approved specialty certification. Works pretty good for us I think. It's clear expectations to be fair across the board and usually the nurses who put the effort into being charge eligible have good work ethics and leadership qualities.

Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

Anyone with a pulse and off orientation could charge on my old unit

Same here. I did my first shift as charge about a month and a half after I started the job, and yes, I was a new grad.

I'm not sure what the criteria is for charging at my current facility, but I know you can't be per-diem/PRN staff and do charge.

SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

Depends on the nurse. Some people are excellent and ready after a year or so> Some nurses will always do poorly in such a position, due to inability to see the big picture and communicate with/manage others.

You say nothing of her talents/actual experience or abilities. 3 years may be plenty if she is made of the right stuff.

Why are you so worried, really? If she is unable to do the job due to lack of ability, then you protest. But lack of years? That alone is not enough really.

Also does she get along with the other nurses? Is she a good fit?

If the answers are yes, then ---yes--- she should be learning to charge.

Any place I worked, I preferred NOT being in charge. Too much work, too little pay and authority. Give me staff nursing any day.

Anyhow, I digress. Where I work, there is a long orientation and training period and one is not in charge for at least 1 year----or 2 if a new nurse out of school. (company policy). But more often, it's a bit longer. Such a person is a "team leader" where I work, and is in charge not only of other nurses, but technicians under them. It's a pretty big responsibility. But most handle it well after 2 years' experience.

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littlepeopleRNICU

Specializes in NICU, telemetry. Has 7 years experience.

I trained for charge at a year on my last unit, and am now training for charge at around 2.5 years' experience on my current unit. However, they were asking me about training since I had been there around 8 months. I said no until now because I didn't feel myself, that I was ready to take on the role.(I had switched to VERY different specialties).

They "say" 2 years on my current unit(of actual unit experience, not nursing experience), but that's taken with a small grain of salt. Most of the nurses end up training around that time, only because that's when they become proficient enough in the things a charge nurse in the NICU should be able to, and honestly, I think experience is not the priority. There are some nurses I would consult for advice/trust with manning charge at 3 years experience vs others with 20 years. It's really an individual thing. Even though they are loose with the experience requirements on my unit now, they are still very, very selective in who they want to train. I feel like 3 years is far enough experience for your nurse...as long as she has all the right skills, personality, and leadership aspects that would make her a suitable charge nurse. Is the length of experience the only reason the rest of the unit doesn't feel like training her is a good idea?

Hi all

just wondering - in your facility, what are the requirements for charge nurse?

I work in a small LDRP unit, we have 4 main charge nurses on each shift. My manager wants to train another nurse to do charge sometimes, however this nurse only has 3 years of experience. The rest of us don't feel like it's a good idea.

So I'm curious about what other facilities are doing? Thanks?

LOL, how much experience are you looking for? 5? 10? 15?

No offense, 3 years is PLENTY to be charge nurse, assuming everything else is equal (i.e., said individual isn't a complete idiot). A charge nurse is more of a point person or a resource nurse, it doesn't necessarily mean said individual is the most experienced or knows everything.

Where I previously worked (16 bed ICU), RNs could charge with 1 year experience. Small pay bump, and usually charge did not take patients unless we were short-staffed. Not sure about my new hospital though, I moved out of state and don't I start for a few months.

I would think the amount of experience really differs per individual... We had nurses with 15+ years experience that we didn't think should be charging, and some with only 1-2 that made, or would have made great charges...

shortstuff31117

Specializes in OB.

Well there is more to it, but I was only asking about facility requirements. No need for some of you to be rude!