OldDude 1 Article; 4,787 Posts Specializes in Pediatrics Retired. May 30, 2017 I'm sticking with anxiety
NutmeggeRN, BSN 8 Articles; 4,596 Posts Specializes in kids. Has 40 years experience. May 30, 2017 Anxiety can cause the skin to itch, have chest tightness, and feelings of throat closing. Tough read with teenage girls. I would just have the epi ready in case the O2 sat dropped or there was visible swelling of the lips.Esme12 Nice to see you on the school nursing thread!!! Have missed you!
JenTheSchoolRN, BSN, RN 3,034 Posts Specializes in School nursing. May 30, 2017 She did not administer the Benadryl, her parent did. School nursing is unique that the community is overall healthy and, unlike acute or chronic care, you don't assume the worst first. You also don't have the luxury of another licensed person to consult with. You get a little bit more liberal in your treatments. Anxiety presents many different ways AND children, gasp!, sometimes cry wolf. I wouldn't feel bad activating 911 for an Oscar worthy performance, but my job is to keep butts in seats.This. I have told other nurses our thinking process is slightly different in school nursing. In a hospital setting, you may assume the worst and work down. In a school setting, you may assume the least and work up. Oh, sure you are ready to call 911 if needed, but 99% of the time, it is something lower on the totem pole, so to speak.For example, I have a lovely parent who is also a cardiac nurse. Her child was complaining of sudden moderate consistent sternum pain just before school; parent's cardiac training kicked in and she was running worst care scenario in her head. She was calling her pediatrician. She called me in the AM to talk with me about her child's health for the school day and I asked if she had any previous signs of acid reflux. Mom's sigh was huge. She was like - yes! I did still recommend follow-up with her pediatrician and sure enough, child had gastroesophageal reflux.
ruby_jane, BSN, RN 3,142 Posts Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing. Has 14 years experience. May 30, 2017 Perhaps I'd have been overreacting, but I would have called 911 because this girl needed Benadryl and you had no order for it, and no way to quickly get an order. I think you risked your license and her life. I risked neither my license or her life. It's about assessment and reassessment. Did she need Benadryl or Epi? Epi treats the anaphylaxis, Benadryl may mask it. If I had both, best practice in the face of a potential unknown allergen that might be causing anaphylaxis is Epi. This is a school setting. In order to get standing orders I'd have to 1) be in charge; and 2) fork over thousands of dollars (I think a neighboring district pays $4K for their SOs for albuterol and Epi.)My license does not allow me to diagnose or prescribe. Fortunately, I had what I might have needed....had I needed it. Had dad not been on his way...for sure EMS.I mostly posted to get the awesome tips like another poster shared - anxiety can cause the throat swelling and the itchies.
ruby_jane, BSN, RN 3,142 Posts Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing. Has 14 years experience. May 30, 2017 In a hospital setting, you may assume the worst and work down. In a school setting, you may assume the least and work up. Oh, sure you are ready to call 911 if needed, but 99% of the time, it is something lower on the totem pole, so to speak.I am prepared for the worst....but the best thing about this job is that my assessment skills have been honed so sharply because I might need to give report to EMS or to convince a parent that they need to take the kid to the hospital. Had dad not arrived, with her being bright pink and itchy....EMS it would have been. Because she wasn't worsening but she wasn't getting much better, either.
3ringnursing, BSN 1 Article; 543 Posts Specializes in ICU; Telephone Triage Nurse. Has 25 years experience. Jun 9, 2017 I'm going with noxious odor reaction given it was science class, continuing reddening conjunctiva, and flushed, itchy skin. Did she seem anxious? Diaphoretic? I had a coworker who went into full blown anaphylactic reaction to the smell of oil of peppermint.Any updates on this? I'm curious to know what the final Dx was.
OhioBPH 281 Posts Specializes in School health, pediatrics. Has 7 years experience. Oct 19, 2017 I am interested in any update or additional info on this. I have an incredibly anxious 7th grader here who is also nut allergic. He had an episode of anaphylaxis due to unknown source over the summer, that mom assumed was trace trasfer contact on the remote. Didn't think much of that until he came in complaining of allergy symptoms due to unknown cause, but a chat with his counselor got that under control (after monitoring for a while with improvement whenever we werent talking about how he was feeling).This is the same kid I gave epi to and the squad took him. I am a MA, not a nurse, so I don't assess vitals, but I'm not sure it wasn't a panic attack.
WineRN 1,109 Posts Specializes in NCSN. Has 4 years experience. Oct 19, 2017 Oooops...this is the one I read. If Raw Fruits Or Veggies Give You A Tingly Mouth, It's A Real Syndrome : The Salt : NPROddly enough, I was talking today about oral allergy syndrome. And this may fit here. Does the student have a history of seasonal allergies?Oral Allergy Syndrome | Symptoms & Treatment | ACAAI Public WebsiteBoth of those articles are super interesting! I was leaning towards anaphylaxis and needing the epi at the beginning (esp with the possible tongue swelling). But it definitely sounds like something triggered by an allergen to me. She might have been panicking because of her symptoms causing the elevated heart rate and BP.