why do you care if a student misses class?

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Just trying to understand why some of my classmates are so upset about a student who's been missing class. To me it just seems like it's none of their business and has no effect on them, but maybe I'm missing something.... This student has missed probably 7 class days in our almost year long program. She's on the high end of absences for the class, but not about to go over the allowed amount. She has three small kids under 5, her youngest was under 4mo when she started. She also had to have an emergency gall bladder removal a couple months ago and took a week long medical absence. She wanted to come back to class sooner than a week, but the nursing director told her she had to take the full week, or she would forefeit it (I don't know why). Anyway, she came in one morning and went to speak with one of our instructors and several students just went off about how she shouldnt' be in the program and she should have been kicked out, etc... I just was so shocked because I have a lot of respect for her because she had good grades and has a TON on her plate right now. Also, they were having financial trouble and had to move in with her sister during all this.

She's a friend, so obviously I am on her side, but I just don't understand why other students are so hostile about it? Why do they care if she's not in class. They can skip if they wanted to (and I don't think she's just skipping anyway). She hasn't missed any group papers or projects, she's the only one sitting for her NCLEX, so I just don't get it. What am I missing?

In general, I dont think it should matter whats going on with your life out of school- Whether you have medical issues or just want to stay in bed. You use your absences how you want to(and if it comes back to bite you in the butt, then thats your problem)You have to dedicate yourself- in this situation, she has not broken any rules or missed any days over and above! I only take the persons outside lifes issues when I think to myself, oh that stinks she was so sick, i feel so bad for her... while i dont have an ounce of sympthay for a person who uses al of there absence time because they were tired or didnt want to take a test cuz they werent ready and they get kicked out(which happened to my best friend, and im sorry she wont be graduating but she had diff priorities so why should i feel bad?). And I bet this does come into the instructors mind, her surgery, since she wasnt out blowing bubbles, so yeah maybe they arent coming down on her harsh- working wiht her to catch her up on things, and guess what, she shouldnt be kicked out for it anyways, if anything a medical leave of absence, so why would peers want her out?

It does stink to have peers that shouldnt be there still be there, but thats them- its not your decision and i feel you should worry about yourself. You are allowed to have an opinion but when your attention goes from your self and your school work to sitting around talkin about how its so unfair- your the one with the problem, and if you feel so strongly about it then go talk to your instructors as to why you feel its so unfair, and see what they tell you-> to Worry about yourself!!!!

Specializes in PICU/Pedi.

At my school, we get concerned if someone doesn't show up because we can only miss two classes a semester (or so they told us, anyway). Especially if it's someone who is an otherwise serious and reliable student. We had a lady here who hadn't been to class in a few weeks, and we were all trying to figure if she had dropped or not. She is a CNA and really does a good job, and so we were concerned that something happened to her. She showed up this week, and said she had been involved in some kind of custody battle. We were all glad to see her back, and are hoping that she'll still make it through. It was probably none of our business, but we just wondered what happened. Now that we are actually in the program, there doesn't seem to be alot of competition going on. We kind of look out for and help each other out (to a degree, of course). If my friends don't show up to class, I start texting them to find out what's going on!

i agree with the last postee....i do get concerned when my friends arent there...and also the rules should be for every one not just a single person, no matter their situation. you can feel bad for someone, if there situation is right, but for that a school usually offers options like i said before a medical leave....either way the teachers know whats going on whether you tell them or not. If a person is consitent and a good student they know that something must be wrong and vice versa

Tending to their own business is too adult-like for these students. They prefer to project their own insecurities and hostilities on someone else who has done nothing to warrant their undue interest.

No one wants to see someone else getting a break if they feel they worked harder for the same thing. Smae with other students cheatining.

I do not not care, it is there business.

Taking days off is not "getting a break". If you miss class/clinical in my school, you may miss a quiz (automatic zero) or some very relavant information. If you miss clinical, thats on your head as well. Its your life, and your absences, I dont care what you do with them.

If Suzie gets 8 days absent in one semester without failing where should could physically come in but chose not to, I dont care at all. If she can pass after that? All the more power to her. If I miss 7 days in the same semester and I fail? That comes down to an unfair double standard, NOT with the student but with the administration.

Cheating is a whole nother topic all together. Cheating is doing something WITHOUT knowledge of teaching staff, which is flat out against program rules and which, if they knew, would mean an automatic kick out of the program. If you run to the teacher because suzie has 8 absences she is just going to look at your like you are stupid, because of course she knows that Suzie was not there. It wasnt false or hidden or anything.

I dont feel like I have to compare my successes to those of others. If I do whats in the syllabus, then I should pass. It has nothing to do with anyone else. If there is a "up to teacher's discretion" worded in there somewhere then yes they can be more flexible about some absences than others.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

Heh, I missed class today. Why??? Because I had a really bad day yesterday and I just wanted a day off today. We weren't having any tests or quizes or assignments due today and my friend said she would let me know anything important I needed to know. It's the first time I have missed class this semester. I have been about 30 mins late one time because my car battery was toast *it was only a flippen year old too* and I had to go buy a battery before class. My friend came and jumped me and we barely got it to turn over so I had only that charge to go get it. She let the teacher know what was going on.

I am a good student. If I want to take a day off then it isn't anyone but my professors buisness.

Like I stated easlier, I don't care who comes to class, I don't care even if they are getting special treatment. I am only worried about what I am doing and that I am being treated fairly.

The only reason I care if someone keeps missing class constnatly, is if they are interrupting the next class a lot because of it. If you miss class it is your job to find out what you missed and so on, schedule non class time with the teacher if you need missed material explained. That is the only reason I would care and that is because they went from it being their business to making it my buisness as well.

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

Being concerned about a friend is something totally different then the topic at hand. If I have a friend in the class and she was just missing one day and didn't text me or anything, sure I might text her and see whats up, make sure I get any info for her she might need etc. if I don't hear from her for a couple days and she isn't in class either, than I am probably calling her house and getting really concerned if this is abnormal behaviour for her.

Being concerned for a friend though is not the same as being a busy body about students you have no ties to.

I wouldn't even notice if someone missed class. I don't even know the names of most of the others in my lecture class. After all there's 40 of 'em!

I'm a little closer to my clinical group because there are only 10 of us.

I'm a big supporter of missing every possible hour you are allowed to miss. Those hours belong to me & I cherish them. I save gas money everytime I decide to stay home. Whether I've got a sick kid, an appointment to keep, or just need a mental health day, it's no ones business but my own.

I do try to wait until the later part of the semester to use my hours, though. Just in case something comes up!

i'm a big supporter of missing every possible hour you are allowed to miss.

w00t, if attendance isn't mandatory, and i can get my grade missing a few classes, i will as well. many professors at my school set a limit, i had one which was 5 days and another 2 consecutive days and you are dropped. a good motivator but not sure why they care if they do no daily assignments.

Specializes in LTC.

At my cc we are only penalize for missing clinicals not lecture. So if a nursing student miss three clinical days they fail the course. I know students who plan on purpose to miss a clinical day. Their attitude is that they have days to miss so they will miss as many as possible before getting kicked out of the program. Do I care ? No. However, I'm different ! I would have to be on my death bed before I miss a clinical or theory class. Once again this is just me. I value my education and I love to learn. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that others that skip class or miss class on purpose don't value their education, I'm just sharing my personal feelings.

I actually rescheduled my wedding date when I found out I accidentaly scheduled it on a clinical day. The only time I get really annoyed with people who miss class just because is when they ask for my notes and etc. I say no !

Specializes in acute care.

at my school, the penalty for missing a clinical is something like $50 per hour that you must make up.

Specializes in General adult inpatient psychiatry.

When I'm in a lecture hall with 74 other students, listening to someone read a powerpoint to me and I have personal issues (mental health and trauma), I'm going to read on my own, ask questions when I do go to class, and be quiet the rest of the time. More power to you if you go to each and every class, but everyone learns different and you have no idea what everyone else is going through outside of school. I still manage to do well in clinicals (I never miss those unless it's death) and I do well on exams, assignments, and papers. I swear, this semester is not rocket science and I don't get much out of sitting there in the lecture hall. Sure if we do a case study I might pick up on something but so much of nursing school is self teaching anyway.

Just my $0.02.

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