I have a huge problem. It is a long story so if you need more details I can provide but I'm going to shorten this here.
As of 1 week ago I was dismissed from school due to failing three classes which is their limit. The first two classes I failed was in September 2014, the third March 2015. The school checks everyone's grades after each session. Each session is 8 weeks long. I have since re-taken those classes and passed them as well as 3 other classes. I do not deny that I should have been dismissed but six months later after I've re-taken them as well as further classes? I have been receiving financial aid during this time as well. I don't know if this is right or if I should pursue a second appeal at the national level. Do I file a formal complaint. Do I have any rights here?
I hope someone can provide some sort of insight here.
I would appeal on the next level in hopes that the fact that they did not catch it for 6 months helps you. I wouldn't count on it though.
I understand your frustration and the hopes you could just fly under the radar - and you did - but only for a short time. I don't believe that you didn't know you failed 3 classes, and it that is true, you aren't taking school seriously enough. I think anyone who REALLY is passionate about school keeps up with their grades/GPA/credits every semester if not more often. Shoot I check my grades often to make sure there are no discrepancies between when the professor enters and what I earned.
Believe me when I say I understand forgetting things, or letting things slide when you are busy. We all do it once and awhile, but it cannot get out of control. I wish you luck and hope this serves as an example for others. At some time the bill comes due.
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When you fail a class once, and then pass it later, the net effect is that you passed the class.
But it doesn't negate a failure if there are school limits on the number of classes failed before academic dismissal. Most schools are fail one, repeat class fail a second & dismissed to apply for reentry
I guess I can't shake that it speaks for her character. But if I pretend that doesn't exist that it's just about policy. The problem is that a school took 6 months to determine 3 failures. Questions I'd ask are is that standard, is the standard time written anywhere, do they have a deadline? But the fact remains that the OP knew she failed 3 classes and knew the policy but chose to register and pay for more classes hoping noone would ever know. Imagine if it was her senior year? That would be devastating and responsibility would fall on the OP ultimately because she's an adult entering a profession where accountability and ethics are very important.
It was her responsibility to know she failed 3 classes and know that she needs to reapply or transfer after that.
I would like to thank you all for your brutal honesty. As much as some of it hurt to read, it did make me look at this situation in a different light. My words were probably not chosen quite right for this discussion as some of you feel as though I did not pay attention to my grades but I can assure you that I did. I care a lot about my schooling and did follow my grades. It's a little more difficult to get every little detail down in a discussion thread like this.
Thank you to those who did realize the point that I was trying to make. I own up to my mistakes. And I have owned up to this one. I am not happy with myself by any means. I have no excuses to make here. It was all me.
Again, thank you to everyone who answered me and were brutally honest. Hopefully I will be able to continue on to get my degree but who knows. At this point, I'm so mad at myself for having gone through this that I don't know if I even want to continue.
I know. Life gets busy and crazy and you just do what you gotta do. To be honest if I was in your position and they said nothing I may have kept going too. Life gets overwhelming and sometimes it's hard to explain why you did something after the fact. It doesn't mean you are a bad person or will be a bad nurse.
When you fail a class once, and then pass it later, the net effect is that you passed the class.
But when you have a limit on failures (which there was) and then you meet that limit (which OP did) you still fail out. The failures are also going to go against your GPA. They don't just magically disappear because you retook the class and then passed.
I was harsh. I feel guilty about that because I do feel bad for you I'm not just trying to be mean. I'm sad for you to have gotten in the program then to fail 3 classes. Now that I'm in the nursing classes I'm dismayed by seeing fellow nursing students acting like they shouldn't. I mean cheating or not bothering to study enough then blaming it on the teacher. In a national poll nurses are respected by 85% Americans. I think nurses and nursing students should be acting right and doing the right things. I feel snobbish like I think we're better which isn't how I feel I just think we have to act with integrity.
I'm sorry for the meanness I may have shown. I hope you do reapply and make it right.
(That nursing ethics thing? [h=2]"Respect for human dignity[/h]A fundamental principle that underlies all nursing practice is respect for the inherent worth, dignity, and human rights of every individual. Nurses take into account the needs and values of all persons in all professional relationships.")
Jkadel, Accept water under the bridge. Now what? You should request meeting with nursing school director, and anyone else (representative) to discuss your situation AND your desire to pursue Nursing degree. Ask what the options are, what steps you need to take, and ask for guidance.
For someone who has screwed up royally, admits that they basically tried to fly under the radar and stay in a program they had no right to take up space in and in their initial post showed a distinct lack of taking responsibility for their actions, not so much.
That person needed to be told what was what. She is an adult, so she was told in no uncertain terms.
She has since come back to acknowledge the mistake was hers.
OP, I know that right now you're wondering whether it's all worth it. Maybe it is, maybe not. Only you can answer that for yourself. Take some time to regroup, see if your old program will allow you to start again. If not, and you still feel that Nursing is what you want to do, look into other programs.
Whoa, wait a minute. Since when did I not take responsibility for my own actions? Because I unintentionally tried to fly under the radar? I accepted the fact that I should have been dismissed but I feel as though I should have been dismissed 6 months ago. And to say that I had no right to take up space in†the classes. Wow. I understand that you think I need to know what is what†but you evidently assume that I am this horrible person who lacks responsibility and makes excuses. This is not who I am. There is compassion and honesty but then there is also just being plain mean. Furthermore, I think you should have compassion for everyone around you unless they have shown that they don't deserve it…not just your patients while you're at work.
I understand how everyone would think that I am lacking the responsibility or making excuses for what has happened but I am not. I had lots of issues back when I failed those classes with studying, retaining and test taking, all of which I know were my issues. I have since fixed those and have done very well on every class since then.
@Direw0lf, No worries.
@Ranax, thank you. Persistence is key. I have had a meeting and have some steps to take now. My only hope is that I have not ruined my chances to get my degree.
Whoa, wait a minute. Since when did I not take responsibility for my own actions? Because I unintentionally tried to fly under the radar? I accepted the fact that I should have been dismissed but I feel as though I should have been dismissed 6 months ago. And to say that I had no right to take up space in†the classes. Wow. I understand that you think I need to know what is what†but you evidently assume that I am this horrible person who lacks responsibility and makes excuses. This is not who I am. There is compassion and honesty but then there is also just being plain mean. Furthermore, I think you should have compassion for everyone around you unless they have shown that they don't deserve it…not just your patients while you're at work.
I understand how everyone would think that I am lacking the responsibility or making excuses for what has happened but I am not. I had lots of issues back when I failed those classes with studying, retaining and test taking, all of which I know were my issues. I have since fixed those and have done very well on every class since then.
@Direw0lf, No worries.
@Ranax, thank you. Persistence is key. I have had a meeting and have some steps to take now. My only hope is that I have not ruined my chances to get my degree.
LoriAngel14, Thank you.
Did you not read the whole post you were referring to?
I SAID you came back, took responsibility and acknowledged the mistake was yours.
I also then said this:
"OP, I know that right now you're wondering whether it's all worth it. Maybe it is, maybe not. Only you can answer that for yourself. Take some time to regroup, see if your old program will allow you to start again. If not, and you still feel that Nursing is what you want to do, look into other programs."
Something tells me you read the part that ruffled your feathers and didn't bother reading to the end, where I DID show "compassion" and tried to be positive.
If that wasn't enough for you, your problem, not mine.
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I would appeal on the next level in hopes that the fact that they did not catch it for 6 months helps you. I wouldn't count on it though.
I understand your frustration and the hopes you could just fly under the radar - and you did - but only for a short time. I don't believe that you didn't know you failed 3 classes, and it that is true, you aren't taking school seriously enough. I think anyone who REALLY is passionate about school keeps up with their grades/GPA/credits every semester if not more often. Shoot I check my grades often to make sure there are no discrepancies between when the professor enters and what I earned.
Believe me when I say I understand forgetting things, or letting things slide when you are busy. We all do it once and awhile, but it cannot get out of control. I wish you luck and hope this serves as an example for others. At some time the bill comes due.