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Can you PLEASE be quiet...

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Specializes in Psychiatric Nursing. Has 1 years experience.

so sitting down to morning report i am the off going nurse and have two nursing students sitting in. great, no problem. if i was to be 100% honest i don't love having nursing students around. i genuinely want to pass on the good experiences that were given to me by wonderful clinical instructors that i have had but it is not something that comes naturally. with that said i purposely waited to conduct report because i know in the past nurses who have wanted to get out as soon as their shift is over will go through it before the students get there and they end up missing the whole thing. i wait, sit down to start going through the list and not only are the two students talking while i am giving report they start talking over me!!!:hdvwl: not about patients, the facility or anything remotely related... but instead about finals and end of term. i am sorry, i know you are required to be here and all but this is my place of work and this report really is not some silly little exercise that i must do for a grade, it is important. i shot the girls (well actually they looked like they were 30 and 50 but childish all the same) a look and they stopped for a while but minutes later were going at it again!?! not quite as loud the 2nd time around but still, i was mad! then they ask a bunch of questions which by that time i had no interest in going through, if you can't have enough respect to let me talk why should i have to go and answer all your silly questions.:scrm: i know i am probably being way too harsh but it irked me. i will try to be nice to the next group knowing that this was only two individuals and not the nursing student body as a whole, but now i can see why i came across some occasionally difficult nurses while in nursing school. :grn:

thanks for listening... i feel better now :mad:

canoehead, BSN, RN

Specializes in ER. Has 30 years experience.

Kick them out of the room, or warn them and then kick them out. It's a real teaching moment.

nerdtonurse?, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

I'm an LPN and half way thru the RN. I'd never do that, and I'd expect to get tossed out if I did, and the nurse to have a chat with my teacher.

I gotta tell you, having been on both sides of the fence, I don't know how happy I'll be if I get a student like some of the bozos I've been in school with. KIA, PITA.

oslogirl

Has 12 years experience.

Talk about a complete lack of common sense! I would have reported these social zeros to their instructor.

As an instructor, I would like to know that it happened. If you wanted to stop report and get me then, that would be fine with me. I can send them home for unprofessionalism and give them a "U" for the day. (Two Us will fail you.). I know it is awful to stop report and get the instructor, but we have no other way to know what is going on. (I have 8-10 students on the floor at once and can't possible be in all of those morning reports.) I realize it sets you back a little, but if you can somehow get the message to the instructor, it is definitely something that we need to know.

One time, I had an issue with a student that a nurse waited to tell me until I was leaving the floor on the last day of clinical. I had just given the students their final evaluations to read and sign, right before we left. Kinda complicated things when I got a big issue to deal with, as the staff nurse stopped me on the way out, as she didn't want to bother me with the issue earlier. It was a suspicion of taking a narcotic (nurse gave it to the student to give and patient who was a nurse recalled getting the ES Motrin, but not the narcotic pill). Obviously, this is an issue I would have liked to have dealt with immediately, and not wait until later to deal with. I had to write an addendum to her evaluation to deal with the issue. Please tell us sooner than later if there is an issue with a student.

sjt9721, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma/Education.

They were out of line.

With that said, I believe you could have been more assertive in dealing with this situation. "Giving them a look" doesn't cut it. Stop report, look directly at them, and ask/tell them to stop talking so that everyone can hear the shift report. If they continue, stop again and send them outside the room for their personal conversation, then seek out their instructor before you leave.

Being direct and assertive (which doesn't equal rude) may have produced a better outcome in this situation.

JenRN30, BSN

Specializes in Endoscopy/MICU/SICU. Has 10 years experience.

Wow, that's ridiculous. As a student, I can't imagine behaving like this in front of the staff nurses. Ditto what the other posters have said, tell them to be quiet during report or leave. Most students are very aware that we're a bother to the nurses, so common sense would tell them to keep their mouths shut.

Ruby Vee, BSN

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching. Has 40 years experience.

rather than being too harsh, i don't think you were harsh enough. i would have stopped report, asked them politely to button it up the first time. the second time, i would have bounced them out of report, refused to work with them and sought out the instructor for remediation.

ohmeowzer RN, RN

Specializes in ob/gyn med /surg.

i would of said after the first warning " where's your instructor?" , they would tell me and i would of said " go get him or her" and i would of sang like a bird in front of them. i would of told the instructor how rude they were , and then they would remember to keep quiet while i am trying to do my work.

DolceVita, BSN, RN

Specializes in IMCU. Has 9 years experience.

OK but why, instead of shooting them a look and hoping they will read your mind, did you not tell them to be quiet? You do see, that to be annoyed with them, because they didn't do what you wanted, when you in fact did not tell them what you wanted, isn't looking after your own needs...right?

Just my two cents -- I am sure I will get flamed.

sjt9721, BSN, RN

Specializes in Emergency/Trauma/Education.

OK but why, instead of shooting them a look and hoping they will read your mind, did you not tell them to be quiet? You do see, that to be annoyed with them, because they didn't do what you wanted, when you in fact did not tell them what you wanted, isn't looking after your own needs...right?

Just my two cents -- I am sure I will get flamed.

No flames here...our 105 degree forecast is hot enough!

This is a good lesson for all of us to use when dealing with almost anyone.

:D

ICAN!

Specializes in Dialysis.

I would think "the look" would have been enough for a 30 and 50 year old adult.

travel50

Specializes in LTC, geriatric, psych, rehab. Has 26 years experience.

I would think "the look" would have been enough for a 30 and 50 year old adult.

You would think, but I swear I have seen adults less mature than my 8 yr old grandson, and I do not exaggerate. Some people, perhaps the OP, are just not comfortable disciplining other people, esp adults who should need no disciplining. I appreciate the instructor writing in who said she would hope to be notified if her students behaved so. I have LPN students at my nursing home, and fortunately, all have been very professional. If they opt not to be, then I would opt to do something about it.

Ruby Vee, BSN

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching. Has 40 years experience.

i would think "the look" would have been enough for a 30 and 50 year old adult.

one would hope, but evidently it wasn't.

I think this situation was handled poorly Im sorry...we can all agree im sure that sometimes people just dont clue in to what they are doing...I myself have students all the time and they either talk like this during report or they only write down the info for their patients and not the whole team.( Drives me nuts)...I am quick to remedy this situation by telling them at that moment that they need to pay attention to what is being discussed and there will be time for chatting later, sometimes they just need to hear it..WHen i was a student im sure I did a couple times cause you get into clinical and are so excited sometimes it just slips your mind...That being said I try to be understanding, not overanalyse it and just tell them how it is..if they continue then I would tell them strait out that I would be discussing it with their instructor...I think you need to take responsibilty that teaching is more than just teaching skills, it is teaching how to be professional as well, and myself as a recent grad would much rather you tell me and us get along better than you going behind my back to tattle on me which would make me resentful and not want to work with you again...

Valerie Salva, BSN, RN

Has 19 years experience.

They were out of line.

With that said, I believe you could have been more assertive in dealing with this situation. "Giving them a look" doesn't cut it. Stop report, look directly at them, and ask/tell them to stop talking so that everyone can hear the shift report. If they continue, stop again and send them outside the room for their personal conversation, then seek out their instructor before you leave.

Being direct and assertive (which doesn't equal rude) may have produced a better outcome in this situation.

I totally agree with this.

arelle68

Specializes in Mental and Behavioral Health. Has 3 years experience.

I had a nurse bite my head off for something like this when I was a student nurse. I had found an error in pt. identification, and I thought I had just saved the world. I didn't know that my brilliance was not the major topic of report that morning. I was in La-la land. I didn't know what nursing was about. Exhaustion, time constraints, working all night, feeling at the end of yourself all the time. I understand those things better now, though. However, when I have absolutely clueless people interrupt my report, I take a deep breath, and remember what a silly little thing I was, and how it hurt to have my silly little head bit off.

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