Anyone else reallllllllllly tired of people on this board stooping to "You lack compassion, shame on you, you're a nurse" charge?
First off, it is a nothing more than an ad hominem attack in disguise, lets not fool ourselves about that
Second, to make broad assumptions about one's nursing practice based on interactions here is utter rubbish
No one on here is my patient
Nor are you co-workers
You are , people on a public message board
Additionally, Being assertive, calling out logical fallacies, asking for evidence, or pointing out the sometimes difficult truth is not indicative of one's compassion level
Please. Stop. Doing. This
The compassion gambit is petty, old, and beneath everyone
Some people have decided on their course of action and start a thread for validation only. When the responses are not in line with what the poster expected to hear, we are informed that we lack compassion.
I generally find that I'm told I lack compassion--by patients and otherwise--when I'm not giving them exactly what they want, even if it's not the best thing for them.
I hear this constantly, but I never see this in practice. Where in blazes do you work and how many job applications do you have out right now?
Lol, I was wondering the same thing. Personally I could give a hoot if my patients are unhappy with my care when I know it is safe and appropriate. The day what I prescribe is driven by patients with addictions issues or the hospital administrators is the day the hospital administrators can start prescribing the meds themselves, oh wait they legally can't.
Those that feel they were meant to be nurses aren't necessarily always touchy feely, virtuous or not wanting a paycheck.
Why is it either/or?
I can't imagine not being a nurse. That doesn't cancel out my want of a nice paycheck and a minimal amount of BS.
THIS. In my 10 yrs of working at a hospital, it's the nurses who go in it strictly because of some higher calling that end up leaving the profession. It's simply not as rainbow and unicorns as they think. And I'm on the simplenurses facebook page (from Mike Linares) and the amount of postings from people who say they're in it because they care and want to help people (and as if I don't? I could've picked any other profession to commit my career to, as well...) and that money doesn't motivate them...they're in for a rude awakening. they always post anecdotals about how they see nurses who go in for the money leave the profession. I have never seen that. In fact, it's those nurses who are the ones who stay and suck it up through thick and thin with admin and management for the patients...and the paycheck. And I love this thread.
Unless you are a pure sociopath, you must have some level of compassion, of course it varies person to person. I agree with the NuGuyNurse2b, if you come in wide-eyed, and unable to compartmentalize that passion, you burn out fast. It's all a balance between showing the patients that you care for them as a person, but not investing your identity in that.
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Sorry, Internet, I left my compassion at the door of the clinic when I left it today. I have even less compassion today than usual because I feel like crap after getting my annual flu shot.
However, I detoured the Waaahhmbulance to Papa John's, and that's helping me feel better at this moment (nom nom nom).
I think we should be supportive of each other's "rants" or reality-based complaints. Nursing is a difficult job that most wouldn't or couldn't do. I would ask someone accusing me of a lack of compassion weather they have any themselves.
I have not been a member here long, but I decided i would become one, because over the years I have found many experienced based anwsers from so many real nurses posting anwsers to questions that I couldn't find else where.
I see where this site could be viewed as a 12 step program for nurses who are seeking compassion and nurturing from people they consider angels of mercy. There seems to be a lot of post from people who are looking for ways to rebound from being termed from jobs that was in no way shape or form their fault.
Iwill always try and help someone who claims responsibility for whatever they know was their fault, and not just looking for a way to get over on someone for their next job. People that know they screwed up, like everyone does at times, and take responsibility for their actions, are a different story. But I will call it as I see it, and every time I tell them what I think, someone always states "where is your compassion?" I left it at work, with patients and people I care about.
I am so sick of this conversation and will stand by my sparkly snowflake of an opinion:
The issue is not the blunt responses. The issue is not when there is an OP who wants affirmation. The issue is not inability to understand tone on the internet.
Arguments arising over the above things are to be expected and are no big deal. They are easily recognizable and I just look past them.
The issue is the blatantly rude and entirely unhelpful comments. The ones that really should have followed the "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" rule. The ones that offer ZERO advice to the poster. So the OP gets offended, and is ripped to shreds for "just wanting an assenting opinion."
Nah, actually. What they wanted was advice, but they got serious back-sass instead. That would make anyone defensive.
I think you guys are great and I learn something every time I come on here, but you have to see where I'm coming from.
THIS. In my 10 yrs of working at a hospital, it's the nurses who go in it strictly because of some higher calling that end up leaving the profession. It's simply not as rainbow and unicorns as they think. And I'm on the simplenurses facebook page (from Mike Linares) and the amount of postings from people who say they're in it because they care and want to help people (and as if I don't? I could've picked any other profession to commit my career to, as well...) and that money doesn't motivate them...they're in for a rude awakening. they always post anecdotals about how they see nurses who go in for the money leave the profession. I have never seen that. In fact, it's those nurses who are the ones who stay and suck it up through thick and thin with admin and management for the patients...and the paycheck. And I love this thread.
Seconded. I've definitely outlasted a handful of those that entered nursing "because of a higher calling." And I don't intend to stop nursing any time soon.
I hear in my daily working life is Nurses who say it's not my fault and are reluctant to take responsibility, accountability for actions or lack of actions.
I remember orientating some place and I was trying to listen to pts and address their needs- you know the compassion. I was told I had to get in and out of rooms fast, otherwise you'll fall behind on everything else and never catch up. I wish I had the time to be compassionate, just no room in the schedule for it anymore.
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I generally find that I'm told I lack compassion--by patients and otherwise--when I'm not giving them exactly what they want, even if it's not the best thing for them.