Excelsior CA limitation

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Regarding Excelsior college RN grads being able to sit for certain state boards, if I get the LVN-RN through Excelsior but get my BSN through chamberlain.edu or another program does this help. I assume the State board of nursing will only need to know about the BSN or do they want proof of RN clinical hours for example? Thanks for your input.

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Are you from California? Unfortunately our great state is hard headed and doesn't reconize Excelsior that is accredited Nationally....but yet they accept foreign grads....Go figure......

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The CA board will NOT license you as an RN if you went to Excelsior.

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People ask this question all the time, and there is a lot of confusion about this. In any state, the state BON is concerned with the nursing program you initially completed to become an RN -- the knowledge you are tested for on the NCLEX. If you return to school and complete a BSN later, that doesn't change anything as far as the BON is concerned, because you don't really learn anything about basic nursing practice/skills in a BSN completion program, and it doesn't have anything to do with RN licensure (you don't have to re-take the NCLEX, or take a different NCLEX, after completing a BSN-completion program -- it doesn't affect your licensure at all).

So, if you get your initial RN education/preparation through EC, take the NCLEX and get licensed as an RN, and then complete a BSN at another school, you are still an EC graduate for licensure purposes, in any state in the country (this is not specific to CA -- it's just a bigger deal in CA for EC grads), and always will be. The BSN (or any other additional degrees) that you complete later doesn't change anything -- nothing will change that, and that's true for any state BON, not just CA.

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California is anal about the clinical portion.....It says on the CBRN website that if you went to Excelsior, you MUST have the minimal clinical hours in order to either sit for their boards or endorce in....and from what I read on their website (it's under endorcement I think) you can be a grad of Excelsior, or any other school....if Excelsior just offered clinical rotations for California and other states that don't recognize their program.....they can sit for the boards.....It's stupid if you ask me because Excelsior requires you to be licensed either as an LVN/LPN, RT, etc....which means they have clinical experience....But try to get a hold of California and ask about that? Good luck, I'm still waiting for a response from the CBRN since January...

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California is anal about the clinical portion.....It says on the CBRN website that if you went to Excelsior, you MUST have the minimal clinical hours in order to either sit for their boards or endorce in....and from what I read on their website (it's under endorcement I think) you can be a grad of Excelsior, or any other school....if Excelsior just offered clinical rotations for California and other states that don't recognize their program.....they can sit for the boards.....It's stupid if you ask me because Excelsior requires you to be licensed either as an LVN/LPN, RT, etc....which means they have clinical experience....But try to get a hold of California and ask about that? Good luck, I'm still waiting for a response from the CBRN since January...

I see this as a basic "fairness" issue. The CA BON, and every other BON in the US, has written rules that require that, in order to be eligible for licensure, you must have completed a program of nursing education that includes a specified minimum number of hours of supervised clinical instruction (and the rules often specify that the clinical hours must have been completely concurrently with the didactic instruction). EVERY OTHER nursing school has to meet this requirement in order for its graduates to be eligible for licensure. I have never been able to figure out why EC and its graduates think that they should be some special exception to these rules that everyone else has to follow ... I'm surprised that there aren't more states that refuse to license EC graduates; again, not on the grounds that they aren't safe or competent, but just on the grounds that they don't meet the BON's requirements for licensure.

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It's stupid if you ask me because Excelsior requires you to be licensed either as an LVN/LPN, RT, etc

I'm still a pre-nursing student, so I am just guessing here, but I would imagine that as an RN student the clinicals I do will be related to the scope of practice of being an RN. I'm not sure how experience as an LVN/LPN, RT, etc can replace that.

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I'm still a pre-nursing student, so I am just guessing here, but I would imagine that as an RN student the clinicals I do will be related to the scope of practice of being an RN. I'm not sure how experience as an LVN/LPN, RT, etc can replace that.

The RN & LVN program differ in scope of practice and education....The clinical portion is about the same, they start off with basic care, then go into assessment and med pass, wound care etc....However, while the VN student is done, the RN student goes into more depth and therefore learning more skill......As an RT (maybe a current RT can elaborate even more) does dispense respiratory medication....and therefore they are also taught to assess a patient...they are specialized more on the respiratory (and sometimes cardio) component...which probably more educated than an LVN/RN (more generalized) in that aspect.....It's not saying that a person who is an RT, LVN, education can replace that of an RN....they all have clinical background...LVN/RN more similar clinical vs the RT who has clinical background, just different field...

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Are there any California Excelsior grads?

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Are there any California Excelsior grads?

Yes, I Graduated from Excelsior College on October 20, 2006. Trying to pass the NCLEX.

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Are there any California Excelsior grads?

There are a few, but no longer as they have not been accepted for licensure since December, 2006. If they were not enrolled by that time, then they are not given permission to test in CA.

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I am an EC graduate that was licensed before 2006 that lives currently in CA. I feel that in my case the EC program was ideal as not only was I an LVN but also a Paramedic. The step to becoming an RN was easy because of my background and experience. It was just what I needed to transition to an RN.

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