$750 CA RN License??? No way!

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The CA BON has a huged increase in the application of RN LICENSE by endorsement of international Students. Before it was around $150 now it’s $750!!!! Any thoughts?

3 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

As a Canadian nurse and a Trump supporter, I really don't know what to make of this. Glad my program was superior, although I don't really think it was. I didn't know I was egocentric and supported discriminatory practices. I think I've just been stereotyped.

Well, the post wasn't directed to you...so not sure your point.

I'm not a Trump supporter. My values don't include supporting racism, discrimination, misogyny, supporting sexual assault on women, nor supporting pedophiles for public office. Those are Trump's values...so I don't support political candidates whose core values do not align with my own.

I guess that is where you and I are different.

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Specializes in NICU/Neonatal transport.

I moved to CA. Getting my licenses endorsed here was a ***, it took forever. (of course, I am in favor of federal licensing, not state. I think it's asinine that it is a state licensure) and I had to take a stupid scheduled drugs ce class to get my furnishing license here, which I would understand if it had *anything* to do with my specialty field (neonatology). It didn't. I can say with confidence that if I am prescribing adderall or valium or percosets for anyone outside of the hospital who is over 1 year old, I am in violation of my scope of practice and license. I don't need to spend several hundred dollars on a CE to teach me the rules about prescribing ADHD meds. That's an annoyance in many states though.

Federal licensure makes so much more sense because having had my license in 3 states now, they all ask for the exact same information. Having it all individually run just increases the possibility that someone could slip through the cracks and practice when they've been disciplined or sanctioned.

Oh, and I did have issues because they couldn't read apparently. I had my transcripts sent in and they gave me a hard time about either micro or pathophys, and said I didn't have it. I finally had to get out my own copy of my transcript, and then walk them through which page and line to find it, after days of trying to call in and get it fixed. Very frustrating at the time. (granted, my transcript was a little confusing and long, as I went to Ohio State for undergrad and graduate, but I also went to other schools so there was transfer credit, and a few other weird things. But once you hit 2005, every class was nursing, instead of spanish (which ended in 1998), so that should have been a clue.

Renewing is fairly painless though, at least.

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Specializes in NICU/Neonatal transport.

And I'm not nearly so negative about CA as others. As much as some people complain about money sometimes, most of the nurses I work with are constantly doing overseas travel and enjoying a comfortable life here. They don't have the mcmansions we had in ohio, but that's not a bad thing, IMO. I honestly wish more people would learn to live in smaller homes.

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Specializes in Pediatric Burn ICU.

Wow, that is so expensive. It is $50 for two years here.

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
11 hours ago, Jory said:

Well, the post wasn't directed to you...so not sure your point.

I'm not a Trump supporter. My values don't include supporting racism, discrimination, misogyny, supporting sexual assault on women, nor supporting pedophiles for public office. Those are Trump's values...so I don't support political candidates whose core values do not align with my own.

I guess that is where you and I are different.

And I don't parrot the unfounded propoganda. So, yes, I guess we are different.

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11 hours ago, LilPeanut said:

Renewing is fairly painless though, at least.

Good to know.

I got in under the wire last year just before they made that massive fee hike for license by endorsement and somehow they missed that I never had Micro at all with or without a lab- my nursing school in New York did not require it to graduate in 2012. I was wringing my hands worried about it but it was a non-issue.

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Specializes in Pediatric Burn ICU.
12 hours ago, Jory said:

When you start the name calling...we are done. Just proves you have nothing of value to share. Just a whole post of one-liners.

I doubt you are even a nurse.

You quoted it and must not have read it. There isn’t one name calling incident in the text you are referencing.

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Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

IMO the reason for the increased fees (for every nurse in Calif) is simply because they can and will tax/charge fees to working people as much as they can. Calif has declared themselves a "sanctuary state" so I am not sure how anyone thinks the increased fees are racist or discriminatory when the state welcomes them all. Most gov agencies in Cal are well known to charge exuberant fees, have out of control regulations, and take forever to accomplish whatever the goal (ie they all have a Mildred), the BON is no exception to this rule.

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On 2/23/2019 at 3:40 PM, Sour Lemon said:

A few things ...
It's expensive to move to a foreign country. A $750 licensing fee wouldn't be anyone's biggest expense under those circumstances. Even moving from one state to another is a heck of a lot more expensive than that.

There have been issues with the California BON and foreign nurses faking credentials to gain licensure. It could be that the process has become even more involved, time-consuming, and expensive as a result.

Life is full of "massive filters". Nursing school was a massive, expensive filter, in itself. Not everybody can afford it, but that doesn't mean that the requirement will be dropped.

I don't have strong opinions about foreign workers in the USA, but I am aware that many countries set up favorable conditions for their own citizens creating a disadvantage for all others. I'm not politically involved enough to know all of the reasons why, but I imagine that the citizens of those countries want to be able to compete on a smaller scale, in their own communities, as opposed to with the entire world.

You actually raise a point that I would like to see researched. What DOES the fee break down into? is it time/hours? Is it just more nonsense?

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4 hours ago, Leadkrm said:

You quoted it and must not have read it. There isn’t one name calling incident in the text you are referencing.

Then you obviously didn't read it.

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5 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

And I don't parrot the unfounded propoganda. So, yes, I guess we are different.

Then you haven't been watching the news. Let me know if you want video clips.

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Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
On 2/23/2019 at 11:45 AM, Bonstemps said:

I don't know many who can afford this. It is honestly pretty racist, xenophobic AND classist to create systems with steep entry fees. I'm not saying that is exactly what is happening, but systems like these are built with a very specific person in mind. I'll be a graduating nurse very soon who has everything going for me, and this fee would keep me out of CA.

I don't understand why you think this is a form of job protection; this is a massive filter and only those who have the cash can pay the entry fee.

Just stop with the identity politics. The fee is the same for all foreign nurses, regardless of race, gender, socioeconomic status, so by definition it is not discriminatory. You are making a racist and classist assumption that all foreign nurses are the same in terms of race and socioeconomic status.

Moving to the US and getting a job here is a privilege, not a right. The US is actually one of the easiest countries in the world in terms of immigration requirements.

As for California, pay the fee or don't work here. We don't have any shortage of people who want to live and work in California. And California is one of the most "liberal" states in the US and half of our population is nonwhite.

There is no shortage of nurses in California. Remember, California has safe staffing laws which limit the number of patients per nurse, which is a good thing, so we use more nurses. We do have a distribution problem, as most people want to live on the coast, so we do need nurses to move to the inland areas.

As for the California licensure process, yes, it sucks, but that's just the way it is. No one is forcing anyone to work in California. The BON has the processing times right on their website and they are accurate.

I am a California resident, but went to school on the East Coast, so I had to apply for licensure by endorsement. It took 8 weeks, which is what the website said it would take.

Microbiology is important because we need to understand the different types of microbes that can affect human health and also learn aseptic technique. Understanding microbes is also important in learning what types of antibiotics and other medications to against various types of infections and why.

I took Microbiology at UCLA w/o a lab. My east coast nursing school accepted this for the prereq. When I then applied for my California RN license by endorsement, I had no problems.

Stop whining. There are 49 other states, so if you don't like California, please move to one of those.

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