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I work in the SICU of a fairly large (by area standards) Magnet (whoop-T-doo) hospital. We have a 7 month Critical Care Nurse Residency program for new grads to go directly into the critical care units. It used to only be open to BSN grads. In 2006 they admitted their first ADN prepared new grad (me). The residency program requires signing a two year contract with a buy out if a nurse chooses not to continue to work for two years. After several years of 2/3 or more of each class buying out their contract after one year to go off to CRNA school and, ever increasing buy out cost, they decided not to recruit or hire new grad BSNs into the program anymore. Starting with the new class (Feb 2009) all nurses hired into the residency program will be ADN or diploma grads. This was explained to us in our unit meeting yesterday.
Currently ADN prepared nurses are far outnumbered by BSN nurses (both in the hospital and the SICU). there are even more RNs with MSNs working in our unit than RNs with ADNs.
The thinking is that ADN prepared RNs are less likely to go off to CRNA school and even if they do it will take them two years to get their BSN and they will fulfill their contract.
I'm an ADN nurse, and I happen to think we are equally as qualified as well.
If the BSN nurses tend to all leave within a year, and the ADN nurses tend to stay, then that's the way it goes. Then what they are doing makes sense.
Now, how are all your nurses getting into CRNA school so easily???
i agree that the bsns who are leaving, creates a valid concern.
but i do think there were other ways to handle it, other than totally excluding all bsns.
if anything, it sounds downright discriminatory.
cardiac's idea of increasing the cost of buyout, is a good one.
more stringent screening for residency, would likely diminish the amt of bsns pursuing crna slots.
these new limitations definitely need tweeking.
leslie
Yeah, I know.I haven't met a soul in my ICU who wants to become a CRNA.
*** Isn't that interesting. Working in my unit I get the feeling that everybody and their dog wants to go. Of course the medical center that is attached to us will pay for RNs to go to CRNA school in exchange for a contract to work for them after. Maybe that has something to do with it. Another maybe is the fact that RNs from my hospital have historicaly had little trouble getting into school. I personaly know 8 nurses from my unit that applied last year. 6 got accepted, one is waitlisted and one didn't get in but did get two interviews.
Can someone please name hospitals that are not hiring ADNs? I just think that the above statement is false. If it's not, I would like reliable data. There is a "nursing shortage", I don't think hospitals can afford to not hire new grad ADNs.
*** 5 of the 6 hospitals I applied to as a new grad ADN in 2006 would not hire new grad RNs into their ICU, One (Meriter in Madison WI) has a critical care nurse residency but only BSNs can apply. All except the hospital I work at want their ADN grads to work in med-surg and then after 1-4 years you can apply to the SICU.
I am not the only one see here:
I work in the SICU of a fairly large (by area standards) Magnet (whoop-T-doo) hospital. We have a 7 month Critical Care Nurse Residency program for new grads to go directly into the critical care units. It used to only be open to BSN grads. In 2006 they admitted their first ADN prepared new grad (me). The residency program requires signing a two year contract with a buy out if a nurse chooses not to continue to work for two years. After several years of 2/3 or more of each class buying out their contract after one year to go off to CRNA school and, ever increasing buy out cost, they decided not to recruit or hire new grad BSNs into the program anymore. Starting with the new class (Feb 2009) all nurses hired into the residency program will be ADN or diploma grads. This was explained to us in our unit meeting yesterday.Currently ADN prepared nurses are far outnumbered by BSN nurses (both in the hospital and the SICU). there are even more RNs with MSNs working in our unit than RNs with ADNs.
The thinking is that ADN prepared RNs are less likely to go off to CRNA school and even if they do it will take them two years to get their BSN and they will fulfill their contract.
Funny!! let's hire people who are further away from going to graduate school...yea...that's the ticket!! LOL
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RN1982
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I know a lot of people who work in ICUs that don't want to be a CRNA. Hey, I'm still undecided myself but it's a big possibility. It's either CRNA or NP...
Can someone please name hospitals that are not hiring ADNs? I just think that the above statement is false. If it's not, I would like reliable data. There is a "nursing shortage", I don't think hospitals can afford to not hire new grad ADNs.