BSN Required...what does this mean for the 2yr ADN programs ?

**RosesrReder, BSN, MSN, RN** · Jul 28, 2010

It means they have a surplus from the pool of nurses to choose from. If there was a shortage of nurses, I guarantee you that the ad would say "Anyone with a pulse, warm body and license welcomed to apply".

evolvingrn, BSN, RN · Jul 28, 2010

yep....its a cycle... adn will stay..

sunnycalifRN · Jul 28, 2010

The hospital system that I work in has a stated "BSN required" policy for the past 20 years. However, at least 75% of the RN's hired into ICU have been ADN's, myself, included. And, that includes the latest new hires in 2010; 4 have been new grad ADN's and 4 were experienced RN's from others hospitals within the system.

So, don't worry about all the "stated policies" . . . a lot of hot air.

**RosesrReder, BSN, MSN, RN** · Jul 28, 2010

The hospital system that I work in has a stated "BSN required" policy for the past 20 years. However, at least 75% of the RN's hired into ICU have been ADN's, myself, included. And, that includes the latest new hires in 2010; 4 have been new grad ADN's and 4 were experienced RN's from others hospitals within the system.
So, don't worry about all the "stated policies" . . . a lot of hot air.

Question, When were you hired? IF 4yrs ago then things have drastically changed. Just sayin'.

SunSurfRN · Jul 28, 2010

With the amount of new ABSN programs, don't assume ADNs couldn't be net replaced. Every college with a BSN can add summer classes and graduate a second degree class in a year and a half.

JenniferSews · Jul 28, 2010

In my case it means LTC/sub acute is your home. I'm planning on starting the BSN program in August and my coworkers and DON all ask "why??" No one can imagine the reason for getting a bsn if I'm going to stay in LTC. The ADN programs may (hopefully) become less prolific, with a shorter wait list. But my prediction is they won't go away entirely any time soon. When I originally graduated hs and wanted to attend a BSN program everyone told me not to bother. Why? It was hard to get into the programs and no one was hiring nurses. Sounds familiar but this was 1992.

kcochrane · Jul 28, 2010

Not sure about other areas....but a lot of hospitals in NJ and NY are saying BSN is required for new hires. Do you think the ADN and Diploma programs will go away ?

So far in upstate NY there is no requirement. They are still hiring new grads ADN or BSN. But, no I don't think the ADN program will go away. I don't believe they still have diploma programs here anymore.

ohmeowzer RN, RN · Jul 28, 2010

in upstate NY i've never heard that.. you have RN after your name .. you are in !! lol...

DaddyO · Jul 28, 2010

I heard something about the reason for the BSN also has something to do with the Magnet Certification.

Anyone hear this ?

caliotter3 · Jul 28, 2010

Yes, the magnet situation is frequently cited as an excuse to require the BSN, but more than likely it all boils down to the employer being picky and choosy because they know they are in control. People need to worry when the employers start stating that the MSN is the minimum education required. The BSN was put forth about 60 years ago, so this is nothing new.

llg, PhD, RN · Jul 28, 2010

I heard something about the reason for the BSN also has something to do with the Magnet Certification.
Anyone hear this ?

The Magnet program does not require an all BSN staff or anything like that. However, it does require that hospitals show their support for higher education in nursing. Hospitals want to show that their percentage of BSN staff is increasing. The easiest way to do that is to hire more BSN's than non-BSN's so that over time, their proportion of staff with BSN's rises. That way, they don't have to try to force existing staff members without BSN's to go back to school.