BSN Required...what does this mean for the 2yr ADN programs ?

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Not sure about other areas....but a lot of hospitals in NJ and NY are saying BSN is required for new hires. Do you think the ADN and Diploma programs will go away ?

Specializes in ob/gyn med /surg.

yes i know about that.. i am a BSN graduated from Russell Sage troy .. but many hospitals in upstate Ny are not magnet.. and RN is a RN ..

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If you want to work in a hospital in California NOW, BSN is probably required.

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Specializes in Cardiac Care.
So far in upstate NY there is no requirement. They are still hiring new grads ADN or BSN. But, no I don't think the ADN program will go away. I don't believe they still have diploma programs here anymore.

I "think" the only diploma program left in NYS is at the Arnot Ogden Medical Center in Elmira.

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In the 1980s, I was considering nursing but they were always going on strike. In addition, I talked to about 10 nurses and they all said do not do it. Do not become a nurse. I did the med tech program, ugh, because I liked science and data and all the nurses wanted to leave nursing. I have gone back and forth over the years about going back and doing the program.

My experience from two hospital stays is that the nurses were totally evil and so were the residents and the social worker was an idiot. Some of the older nurses were very kind to me and felt bad for me because I had been in a serious car accident and was taking morphine and was alone without family. I just wanted to be "out" as in sleeping. :crying2:

I was totally traumatized from this accident (PTSD) and the nursing staff made it worse. The only nurses who were kind to me were the older LPN women who gave me a bath and one resident and my surgeon. The rest were totally evil. From working in the hospital in another capacity, I have found working with this many women to be downright dangerous. They seem to have to find someone to pick on someone about and lie about and gossip about---like seventh graders. Many do not speak English and this frightens me terribly. I have also experienced many a nurse lying to save her butt or getting other people in trouble when she doesn't know the facts.

Another hospital stay I had the nurses were so kind and nice to me, I couldn't believe it. :redpinkhe One nurse saved my breakfast for me (that the food people left for me) when I woke up! One nurse thanked me for being low maintenance because she had some older patients who were acting like they were in a restaurant (I felt bad for her!). When I was having breast surgery for BC, the doctor asked me if I was ready, and the nurse anest. student thought he was talking to her!!!!!!!!:lol2: She was more stressed than I was!

I am still considering the Accelerated Nursing Program for January because it may expand opportunities for working part-time since I still have issues from the car accident, and there is such a shortage and doctors are begging for more nurses. However, I do think I would like the PA program too. The nice thing about the accelerated program is that is is one year plus two months, it is equivalent to a BSN, it is simply for those who already have a BS degree and work experience.

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Specializes in ICU.
If you want to work in a hospital in California NOW, BSN is probably required.

That's not true. I'm in California - jobs are super competitive around my area (Central CA).

I just started a 16 person nurse internship in critical care which had a TON of applicants. There are multiple RNs with ADNs in this program, all which are equally competent to those with BSNs.

AND this hospital is applying for Magnet status next month, and we just recently became a Level III Trauma Center.

An RN is an RN! :)

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Specializes in ER, Step-Down.

a note in one of my work emails stated that our CNO is watching the movement out of Philadelphia to push for ALL entry level RNs to be BSN prepared. So there is a fairly serious movement for such a thing. I know the philly campus of Thomas Jefferson University dropped their ASN program, soooooo who knows.

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Specializes in Pediatrics.

I am a ADN who after 100+ applications has only had 1 interview, the one interview which, had a requiment that you complete your BSN within 5 years.

The university hospital in my area, every job is BSN prefered there have even been some job adds with MSN prefered

The 7 community colleges in my area have now paried with the University so students go for 2 years at the community college get their ADN sit for the NCLEX and while staying at the community college campus continue for 1 more year to get the BSN through the University so that in a few years there will no longer be ADNs and even the community colleges will be able to graduate RNs with BSN.

Unfortunatly my nursing class was second to the last of my school before they made they made the change...so for me, it is back to school I go....all while I pray for a RN job

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Here in the San Diego area, there are some hospitals that are competing. So they want BSN's, it makes them look better. Magnet? By all means, some people say it is nurses cutting nurses throats. Magnet certification is given by "American nurses credentialing center." It is supposed to give nurses a higher voice in the hospitals, and therefore a higher education can make them better equipt to communicate in a more standard plane, in an interdisciplinary role. California nurses association and Massachusetts nursing association have argued that, magnet is primarily a hospital promotion tool. I tend to agree. Acquired knowledge is necessary, but in the nursing arena, alot of the BSN, acquired knowledge, will not compensate for the intuition learned from experience of either a BSN or an ADN. I think alot of it depends on your personal situation. Money, time...If you want to be an RN and ADN, is what is available for you now, go for it, don't look back, the future is yours!!!

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I am a ADN who after 100+ applications has only had 1 interview, the one interview which, had a requiment that you complete your BSN within 5 years.

The university hospital in my area, every job is BSN prefered there have even been some job adds with MSN prefered

The 7 community colleges in my area have now paried with the University so students go for 2 years at the community college get their ADN sit for the NCLEX and while staying at the community college campus continue for 1 more year to get the BSN through the University so that in a few years there will no longer be ADNs and even the community colleges will be able to graduate RNs with BSN.

Unfortunatly my nursing class was second to the last of my school before they made they made the change...so for me, it is back to school I go....all while I pray for a RN job

That is somewhat of the same setup I have. But it will take me less than a year to get my BSN. And that part I have to do at the university. But my community college has a partnership with the university so I can take the majority of my BSN classes at my community college.

Every job within 200 miles of me is BSN preferred as well. Which is why my #1 goal besides doing well in school is networking.

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Question, When were you hired? IF 4yrs ago then things have drastically changed. Just sayin'.

Yes, I was hired more than 4 years ago, but if you read on in my post, this year, we hired 8 RN's and 4 were new grad ADN's. BTW, always from the same local community college because it's has such an excellent nursing program (hehe, my alma mater, too!)

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If you want to work in a hospital in California NOW, BSN is probably required.

Definitely, NOT TRUE. I stay in touch with the community college I went to, and although the ADN new grads are having a hard time find positions, 10% to 20% of each graduating class has a job at graduation. My hospital hires almost exclusively from this program, all ADN's, at a hospital with a stated "BSN required" policy.

The ADN programs aren't going anywhere. Even though the ANA wanted to do away with them 30 years ago, they are here to stay.

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Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.

Another variation on this theme to add to the frustration is those of us who have a B.A in something else with an ADN.

Rarely is the B.A with all the work it entails taken into account by hospital admin- There are people in my school who have masters in soemthing else like clinical social work , obviously have lots of relevant work experience, and are still running into problems because their RN is only an ADN degree instead of BSN :confused:

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