BSN Required...what does this mean for the 2yr ADN programs ?

Published

Not sure about other areas....but a lot of hospitals in NJ and NY are saying BSN is required for new hires. Do you think the ADN and Diploma programs will go away ?

6monstogo

They are not generalizations. And my comments are not rude and insulting. That is dinah77 behavior. They are facts based on my experience from high school and college. I can name three women I went to high school with. Two were pregnant and had their babies and went to college and yeah for them. The other person did drugs and I expect cleaned up her act and went to community college for nursing. I think it is great!

You are totally misreading my comments. And I surely can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. dinah77 stated the rigors of the community college nursing programs were too hard for these people and I am saying they cleaned up and went to the community college. These women were lucky to have someone lead them into a useful profession.

You guys really assume the worst about people. Why did you become nurses anyways? And for all the kudos you are receiving for your misunderstanding, miscommunication, and attacking comments without thought, and assumptions say more about you than me.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Telemetry RN.

I'm going into nursing because it's all rainbows and moonbeams.

Up Vote Up Vote ×

I went into nursing for the prestige and money.

Up Vote Up Vote ×

hahahahah

you are both wrong! That is not the correct response *wink*

what is a cna/hht?

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Telemetry RN.

I'm a certified nursing assistant and home health aide.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Where on earth did you get the idea that there is "such a shortage"? Many areas of the country are completely saturated with RNs and new grads are having a difficult time finding jobs at all in much of the country. Look around this site, and all the threads about new grad RNs who can't find work. (Also, physicians have v. little to do with hiring nurses, not that I've ever heard one express an opinion about nursing staffing levels anywhere.) If that's your rationale for going into nursing, you're likely to be disappointed. I encourage you to do plenty of research before committing to a nursing program.

Best wishes!

this is what my doctors have been telling me that they are having high turnover of nurses and they can't find good ones. this is discussed in another comment.

This is not my rational for going into nursing....wrong assumption

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in None.
Wow, You guys are really nasty.

Your post about druggies and unwed mothers being the only ones going for their ADNs was offensive. What do you expect?

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in None.

In my area, the local community college's ASN program is highly respected, has a 90% NCLEX-RN and nearly 100% NCLEX-PN pass rate, and in the facilities I've worked in and had clinicals in, I've been told these graduates are better prepared and preferred over the local state college's BSN graduates. Which is why when I decided to go back to school, I CHOSE an ASN program to enter the profession.

Me too. The CC I attend has graduated 6 classes since the beginning of their program and have had a 100% NCLEX-RN passage rate since the beginning. It's a very competitive program. I could have gotten into any school I applied to. I chose to apply to only 1 school. I'm not sure where Veranda ever heard that a BSN is more "prestigious". Around here, all you ever hear is that an RN is an RN, unless you want to be a nurse manager.

Don't get me wrong, I find it highly believable that in this economy, BSNs are getting the jobs, but that is such a temporary thing. I'm not worried about it in the least.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
That is somewhat of the same setup I have. But it will take me less than a year to get my BSN. And that part I have to do at the university. But my community college has a partnership with the university so I can take the majority of my BSN classes at my community college.

Every job within 200 miles of me is BSN preferred as well. Which is why my #1 goal besides doing well in school is networking.

Networking is a good idea, seems like people that I know that have gotten good jobs in these really tough economic times knew someone. I really believe in this economy its who you know that gets you a job.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.
Networking is a good idea, seems like people that I know that have gotten good jobs in these really tough economic times knew someone. I really believe in this economy its who you know that gets you a job.

SO agree with this! I tell anyone and everyone I meet that I am a newly licensed RN, including the people I meet at happy hour- the result? Two interviews this Friday!

Up Vote Up Vote ×
I'm going into nursing because it's all rainbows and moonbeams.

ROTFL! :D

This thread really got hostile for a while there. If people get their ADRN, they might just get a job with it, and even if they don't it's a short hop via online degree to get the BSRN, so why not take a chance. I actually looked at some traditional 4-yr BSRN degrees, and they were SO heavily padded with useless irrelevant liberal arts that they didn't even offer as much substance as the modern ADRN programs. So, I chose an option that gives me 3 days clinical per week for almost 24 months. I expect to know wth I am doing when I leave that school, and I think that's a better choice than a fluff lib arts BSRN that lacks actual practical training.

Up Vote Up Vote ×

it definitely depends on many factors.

i go to a nursing school that has a 99.9% passing rate for the nclex and 90% of the students have jobs guaranteed to them before they actually graduate (pending that they pass their nclex of course). the hospital that i am working for exclusively hires nurses with a bsn. it depends on your hospital also. if you work at one of the best hospitals in the nations, they will likely prefer a bsn but may have adns around from previous hire, but if you just want to work at any hospital that they may just take any type of rn. magnet hospitals in my city prefer bsns.

i also have to disagree with the generalization that adns get more clinical time. at my school we not only have to do clinical (med surg, adult i, adult ii, peds, women's, mental, community health, adult i and geriatrics) but we also have must have 1-3 six month externships at an approved hospital to graduate (i'm currently completing mine in the operating room and will do another one in the surgical trauma ward next year). we do all that while still "fluffing up" our degrees with "liberal arts stuff". you actually learn some things from those classes. one class that i loved was healthcare throughout cultures. that class is needed especially since i get to meet patients from different cultures every day. it's nice to know what is inappropriate for their culture without asking someone or looking it up.

a bsn is not only for if you want to go into management. i know tons of nurses who have bsns that don't want to go into management.

adn or bsn, do what is right for you but look into where you want to work first. i knew where i wanted to work since i was young and saw that they hire bsn. i also know that personally i wanted to graduate from a real 4 year university and continue on with my education.

Up Vote Up Vote ×
+ Join the Discussion