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Moogie

Specializes in Gerontology, nursing education.

Like I said, there's something about your situation that sounds sketchy because you're leaving out info. or yo just had a personality clash with your instructor and "didn't want to hear it." Instead of crying "whoa is me" now, it sounds like a situation that could've been dealt with accordingly.

It's 3 weeks prior to graduation. Other than obviously heinous accusations about you, if you had any deficiencies that needed to be addressed, those would have shown up early on in your nursing classes/clinicals and would've been dealt with accordingly. For example, an excellent nursing student would not have statements like "needs to change poor attitude" placed in their records three weeks prior to graduation. Doesn't make sense. And if doesn't makke sense, it didn't happen.

Tyler, thank you for a well-written and thoughtful post. I will respectfully disagree with you, though, that any deficiencies that OP might have had would have been addressed earlier. In nursing education, there's a phenomenon called "Failure to fail", which means that some instructors are too inexperienced, too unsure of themselves, too "nice" to fail a student who is not performing up to standards. Sometimes the criteria for assessing student learning are ambiguous, open to subjective interpretation, and an instructor can either inflate grades unfairly or, conversely, grade a student too harshly. It is unfortunate and, in my opinion, heartbreaking, to allow a student to progress if he/she has a deficiency that is not being corrected. It's even worse when that student is not being made aware of the deficiency until the end of the program and the student is flunked out for unsafe practices in a clinical setting. A good instructor will provide constructive criticism that is meant to help the student improve. The not-so-good instructor will either be too "nice" to criticize the student or swing too far in the opposite direction and be intimidating and condemning in delivering criticism.

OP, I strongly urge you to exhaust all possibilities within your school system before you seek legal advice. First, look back at your previous performance in clinicals and then reflect on what has happened to you now. Is there any way that the problems that are cropping up were occurring in previous terms but no one said anything to you? Did you do something blatantly unsafe in the clinical setting or violate academic honesty? Be honest with yourself and if the blame does indeed lie with you, you may need to take the consequences. If, however, the case against you is based on heresay or a personality conflict with your instructor, you need to get that cleared up as well. Ask for a meeting with your instructor and the head of your program. Document what you have done and be able to defend yourself against any false claims. If it is a personality conflict or a case of the instructor being unfair, you may need to file a grievance with your school. Additionally, plead your case before the admission and progression committee at your school. It can make a difference!

If you have passed all previous coursework to get to this point and unless you did something incredibly wrong, like harm a patient in a clinical setting, show up for class or clinical impaired, or violated academic honesty codes, I don't understand why you would be out of the program rather than just out of the one class. Most schools do give students one opportunity to repeat a class that they have failed and, unless there's something you're not sharing here, you should be given that chance as well.

Hospice Nurse LPN, BSN, RN

Specializes in LTC, Psych, Hospice. Has 15 years experience.

Interested to see where this goes.

BeenThereDoneThat74, MSN, RN

Specializes in Pediatrics. Has 26 years experience.

Excellent post, Moogie. The 'failure to fail' is a big problem. I see it myself as an instructor. My biggest fear is that an instructor will say (of a student that I passed, and is now promoted to the next level), "how did you pass him?" Am I not a confident instructor? I sure am. But I have had students in my clinical pass, then end up failing the very next semester. Some may say that I should have failed them, others may say that the student met the requirements of my course (and did not meet the requirement of the next course, where the expectations were higher). Failing a student clincially is very subjective. If you are in a program where the clinical grade is 'pass' or 'fail', and one objective (of about 25 or 30) is not met, the student may fail the entire clinical component. When lateness is an objective and the student is late once, should he deserve to fail?

On the other hand, there are many times where the student is just not cutting it. You see they are having trouble applying theory to practice, they are not critically thinking, they are not assertive enough, too dependent on their classmates (or staff nurses) to solve problems. This person may end up passing clinical, because there may be no tangible proof of this (as the OP is alleging was the case with her, possibly). The above type of student may end up passing if the instructor does not have written evidence to support all this (because it is very subjective, depending on the objectives of the individual clinical course).

It is QUITE possible that the OP has been flying under the radar up until now.

I do understand what all of you are saying. This program is very quick to condemn somebody for something that has no proof. Here we are guilty until proven innocent. I have for two years discredited them on every single thing they have brought against me, but yet it is kept in my file even though there was no validity to it. It is like they have been after me all this time. I had my review two days prior to this happening, and it was a very good review. They also kicked six others out. The last graduating class was so bad that all of the people were on antidepressants. (no kidding) My mind is just whirling right now, and i will lay out more later. I have all ready got a lead on a lawyer, and am going to check with the State Board of Nursing, and also with the NLNAC. Something has got to be done about this program. As i stated, all of my test scores, and reviews have been good. My clinical's have been going well. I just don't understand what has happened. They are questioning my integrity, and honesty. Nothing wrong with critical thinking, or application. I have handled the 12 hour shifts well. I will not quit until this is resolved, and i will finish in another program. It is just a lot to do all at the same time.

sissykim

Specializes in Med Surg,.

This happend to one of my friends. She eventually went to another learning institution and is doing well. I met her years afterwards and could not advise her to seek free legal aid. Nurses are so mean to each other. They just are, research provides statistics which gives credit to the saying "nurses eat their young" not only do they eat their young they chew em up and spit them out.

To the OP, you better fight, fight hard and fight now, no time to waste. When all is said and done, remember you fought to be a part of an ever evolving fighting ring (Nursing).

That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-B

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab. Has 6 years experience.

So wait this has been going on for two years and you are just now making a stink out of it......There has GOT to be something more. What exactly about your honesty are they questioning? Your integrity? I can see where inadequacy in both those areas would be grounds for dismissal

redhead_NURSE98!, ADN, BSN

Specializes in Med/surg, Quality & Risk. Has 10 years experience.

I do understand what all of you are saying. This program is very quick to condemn somebody for something that has no proof. Here we are guilty until proven innocent. I have for two years discredited them on every single thing they have brought against me, but yet it is kept in my file even though there was no validity to it. It is like they have been after me all this time. I had my review two days prior to this happening, and it was a very good review. They also kicked six others out. The last graduating class was so bad that all of the people were on antidepressants. (no kidding) My mind is just whirling right now, and i will lay out more later. I have all ready got a lead on a lawyer, and am going to check with the State Board of Nursing, and also with the NLNAC. Something has got to be done about this program. As i stated, all of my test scores, and reviews have been good. My clinical's have been going well. I just don't understand what has happened. They are questioning my integrity, and honesty. Nothing wrong with critical thinking, or application. I have handled the 12 hour shifts well. I will not quit until this is resolved, and i will finish in another program. It is just a lot to do all at the same time.

Once again, if you are not going to give specifics I am not sure how anyone here could help you. If there are six others you should not have trouble pooling resources and getting a lawyer though.

I love all the conspiracy theorists on here with ZERO idea of her actual situation..so typical of the posters on here..20% common sense posts and 80% ridiculous..re-read your post..you'll know if I am talking to you or not

DolceVita, BSN, RN

Specializes in IMCU. Has 10 years experience.

I am interested in the result when you get it. Good luck.

Nurse SMS, MSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care; Cardiac; Professional Development. Has 10 years experience.

If the OP is pursuing legal action, she is wise not to post specifics here. If she truly is being unfairly targeted or the victim of a poorly structured and punitive program, I hope she gets the help she needs to at least allow her to attend another school. And if there is any validity to what has happened, I hope she has or develops the inner wisdom to see it. As mentioned by many, there simply is not enough information to know at this point.

I love all the conspiracy theorists on here with ZERO idea of her actual situation..so typical of the posters on here..20% common sense posts and 80% ridiculous..re-read your post..you'll know if I am talking to you or not

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If the OP is pursuing legal action, she is wise not to post specifics here. If she truly is being unfairly targeted or the victim of a poorly structured and punitive program, I hope she gets the help she needs to at least allow her to attend another school. And if there is any validity to what has happened, I hope she has or develops the inner wisdom to see it. As mentioned by many, there simply is not enough information to know at this point.

and this. I feel these are the best responses to this thread. I wish the best for you.

decembergrad2011, BSN, RN

Specializes in Oncology. Has 12 years experience.

I agree it might not be wise to post specifics if you're seeking legal counsel...but it's kind of annoying when people ask for help or complain and then give no reasoning for it.

Sounds to me like someone is under suspicion for cheating/plagiarism of care plans. Which happens a heck of a lot more than people would think.

"They are questioning my integrity, and honesty. Nothing wrong with critical thinking, or application. I have handled the 12 hour shifts well."

In my program, lying about ANYTHING is grounds for immediately dismissal. You messed up? Admit it, tell your clinical instructor right away, and you learn from it.

Integrity and honestly are some of the most vital skills a Nurse will possess.