Biden Impeachment Theater

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An inquiry, because Republicans haven't been able adequately damage Biden's reputation with just committee hearings to discuss the flimsy claims and allegations. 

toomuchbaloney said:

He will likely not communicate at all with the DOJ or offer a suggestion as to how the DOJ should proceed.  He'll be asked about it incessantly by the media.  

I do recall that chairman Comer made the public promise that witnesses could choose between private deposition or public hearing.  The younger Biden asked for and showed up for a public hearing.  I wonder why that wasn't satisfactory.

Actually, he didn't show up for the hearing.

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Beerman said:

Actually, he didn't show up for the hearing.

Maybe they'll punish him.  

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Beerman said:

I myself would prefer it be public.  But also to be clear they do have good reasons for it to be behind closed doors.  It's not a unusual occurrence.

 

I know this.  Congress makes the rules and it's not based on Hunter Biden's wishes, although Hunter Biden did seem to indicate that initially he was given a choice and he chose public.  It will take all of the Republicans to vote to hold him in contempt.  They'll probably get it since they all voted today to formalize impeachment of his father.

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toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe they'll punish him.  

He showed up for a press conference, not a public hearing.

Comer and Jordan have started contempt procedures against him.  Not sure what the punishment for that would be though.

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It's pretty rich that Jordan, who ignored a congressional subpoena, is pushing for contempt. 

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Tweety said:

He showed up for a press conference, not a public hearing.

Comer and Jordan have started contempt procedures against him.  Not sure what the punishment for that would be though.

Yeah. It's hard to testify at a public hearing that isn't scheduled. 

Looks like they are going to throw the book at him. Good for them.  They do represent the party of law and order, after all. 

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Beerman said:

Do you believe the younger Biden should follow the law and appear per his subpoena?

Do you believe Jim Jordan should have followed the law and appeared before the Jan 6 committee as per his subpoena? 

https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-shows-flaming-hypocrisy-subpoena-battle-legal-experts-1778993

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nursej22 said:

Do you believe Jim Jordan should have followed the law and appeared before the Jan 6 committee as per his subpoena? 

https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-shows-flaming-hypocrisy-subpoena-battle-legal-experts-1778993

Yes.

Now, should Hunter comply with his?

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nursej22 said:

Do you believe Jim Jordan should have followed the law and appeared before the Jan 6 committee as per his subpoena? 

https://www.newsweek.com/jim-jordan-shows-flaming-hypocrisy-subpoena-battle-legal-experts-1778993

The subject is Biden so you're changing the focus to Jordan.   I understand it's just too juicy.  I like what former lawmaker Kinzinger says "“He's for the sanctity of the subpoena by the US Congress until he's the one that gets subpoenaed by the U.S. Congress. And he also voted against enforcing subpoenas against people like Steve Bannon and against people like Mark Meadows. I mean, this is – the hypocrisy is mind numbing.”

I'm running out of popcorn.  

Do you believe Hunter Biden should comply with his?

I'm going to have to look into this more.  Obviously defying a congressional subpoena doesn't send someone to jail and doesn't always end up in "contempt of congress".  Jim Jordan faced no consequences, so maybe it's not a big deal.  

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Tweety said:

The subject is Biden so you're changing the focus to Jordan.   I understand it's just too juicy.  I like what former lawmaker Kinzinger says "“He's for the sanctity of the subpoena by the US Congress until he's the one that gets subpoenaed by the U.S. Congress. And he also voted against enforcing subpoenas against people like Steve Bannon and against people like Mark Meadows. I mean, this is – the hypocrisy is mind numbing.”

I'm running out of popcorn.  

Do you believe Hunter Biden should comply with his?

I'm going to have to look into this more.  Obviously defying a congressional subpoena doesn't send someone to jail and doesn't always end up in "contempt of congress".  Jim Jordan faced no consequences, so maybe it's not a big deal.  

It's not about changing the subject, it's about determining if congressional subpoenas are generally important or only sometimes important to House Republicans.   It seems that they are only important sometimes for the party of law and order.  

We are watching this play out in a very public display of different standards for different people.  Most of us aware of the hypocrisy of these Republicans on the matter of responding to congressional subpoenas.  They didn't seem to be concerned about punishing Bannon or Patel or Scavino when they didn't travel to the Capitol for a hearing, or a private deposition. So it's interesting to watch republican voters get manipulated in this fashion and to experience their partisan concern for behavior that they've actively ignored for a couple years now from other people. 

I'm just slightly amused that the question about Hunter getting punished for not complying with the subpoena seems important to @Beerman. While most of us probably think that it's sad and unprecedented that a congressional committee would undertake the investigation of a private citizen, none of us are going to protest Hunter's prosecutions.  I generally feel like any wealthy people of influence who cheat or lie should suffer consequences.  

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Republican Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) is warning House Republicans that President Biden could not be impeached and removed from office for any conduct or crimes committed before he was elected president in 2020. 

Mullin's statement in an interview with Newsmax pours cold water on a House GOP investigation into Biden's family's business dealings, particularly Hunter Biden's work with foreign companies, while Biden was vice president during the Obama administration and immediately after.  

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GOP senator says Biden can't be impeached for pre-presidential actions

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chare said:

 

GOP senator says Biden can't be impeached for pre-presidential actions

Do you think that will stop them? I have my doubts. 

The good senator said that they needed to send a strong case because the bar was set high.  Do you think that there's more evidence to convict Biden than there was to convict Trump?

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