Attention Nurses....

leslie :-D · Aug 15, 2011

I would seriously hope that one's work as a nurse would reflect ones personal philosophy of nursing.

you'll understand what we're saying, once you graduate and be a nurse for around 6 months.

leslie

luvtranscendsall · Aug 15, 2011

So glad my school changes everything around every fall when the new influx of first years come in. All schools should do this so one doesn't automatically assume that they are trying to cheat from an upperclassmen. I think its sad that the OP has now been chased away from this valuable resource. Great JOB!!

luvtranscendsall · Aug 16, 2011

you'll understand what we're saying, once you graduate and be a nurse for around 6 months.
leslie

No I don't understand how one's work wouldn't reflect one's philosophy of nursing. That doesn't even make sense. I am open to hear the how and why you wouldn't want your work to reflect your philosophy of nursing. I know that, unfortunately due to the way the system is set up, one sometimes has to accept less than ideal things on a job however I would hope that any nursing act would be done within the scope of whatever philosophy of nursing they believe in. I been a CNA long enough and have worked in various healthcare settings to get at least good idea of what ya'll are talking about.

linearthinker, DNP, RN · Aug 16, 2011

I don't have a philosophy of dishwashing, but I manage to do it. Well, even! My dishes are clean and I have remarkably high satisfaction scores form the people that eat off them.

In short, it is just not real world. Anyone actually doing the job knows that.

rn/writer, RN · Aug 16, 2011

Could we please stop speaking in absolutes when engaging in speculation? That might go a long way toward striking a better balance between being gullible and appearing unwelcoming.

Some people are more introspective than others, wanting to dig deeper and figure out the whys and wherefores of a particular subject, even when no one is prodding them to do so. Others have more of a, "let's just get on with things and git 'er done," attitude. The way you lean has a lot to do with your personality type and isn't really a "right or wrong" kind of thing.

I remember a while back when mission statements were first becoming popular. Everybody and his cousin, from mega-healthcare corporations on down to corner pizza joints felt they had to jump on the bandwagon with a mission statement. I tried to think one up for myself, but quit after a bit because everything I came up with sounded falsely profound and pretentious.

The same thing can happen with questions about a person's philosophy, whether it's for nursing or teaching or just living in general.

Any time words like "mission statement" or "philosophy" get put on the table, there is a tendency to over think the subject. Or to try to include so much that instead of a nicely arranged backpack, you end up with an overloaded duffel bag.

These jargonish claims also lend themselves to overused words like, ""excellence," "utmost," "strive," and "achieve." Not that there's anything wrong with the ideas behind the words, but after awhile, everything starts to sound like resume-speak.

As in many arenas of life, the simple approach is the most effective and appealing.

My philosophy is to not kill anyone or miss any orders during my shift.
It took me one shift on my own to develop this practice/philosophy.

This might seem facetious, but it's a pretty good start.

Mine is something along the lines of,

I want to keep my patients safe, give them effective pain management, and help them recover as quickly as possible.

Short and sweet. Anything else is gravy.

MtBpsy9609 · Aug 16, 2011

Perhpas you could start off the conversation with your answers to these questions...

Good idea.

Jenni811, RN · Aug 16, 2011

A lot of people come here to allnurses and ask us to do their homework for them. They get an assignment ... then come here pretending that it is their own personal question. They copy down our answers and hand them in. Experienced allnurses members get a little angry at being lied to and being exploited by students in this fashion. So, many of us insist that the student do a little work and invest some thought in the question/answer before we will comment. We'll comment on someone's work, but we won't do their homework for them.
If these questions truly were 100% yours, I am sorry that your feelings got hurt -- and I hope you can understand where the posters were coming from.
As far as feeling the need to "come up with a good question for allnurses...." you don't have to start threads to be an active, valued, contributing member here. I've been here for years -- and I think I have started only 2 or 3 threads the whole time.

Well said! :)

luvtranscendsall · Aug 16, 2011

Could we please stop speaking in absolutes when engaging in speculation? That might go a long way toward striking a better balance between being gullible and appearing unwelcoming.
Some people are more introspective than others, wanting to dig deeper and figure out the whys and wherefores of a particular subject, even when no one is prodding them to do so. Others have more of a, "let's just get on with things and git 'er done," attitude. The way you lean has a lot to do with your personality type and isn't really a "right or wrong" kind of thing.
I remember a while back when mission statements were first becoming popular. Everybody and his cousin, from mega-healthcare corporations on down to corner pizza joints felt they had to jump on the bandwagon with a mission statement. I tried to think one up for myself, but quit after a bit because everything I came up with sounded falsely profound and pretentious.
The same thing can happen with questions about a person's philosophy, whether it's for nursing or teaching or just living in general.
Any time words like "mission statement" or "philosophy" get put on the table, there is a tendency to over think the subject. Or to try to include so much that instead of a nicely arranged backpack, you end up with an overloaded duffel bag.
These jargonish claims also lend themselves to overused words like, ""excellence," "utmost," "strive," and "achieve." Not that there's anything wrong with the ideas behind the words, but after awhile, everything starts to sound like resume-speak.
As in many arenas of life, the simple approach is the most effective and appealing.
This might seem facetious, but it's a pretty good start.
Mine is something along the lines of,
Short and sweet. Anything else is gravy.

Thank you!! This was the best reply!!!

jesskidding, LPN · Aug 16, 2011

Could we please stop speaking in absolutes when engaging in speculation? That might go a long way toward striking a better balance between being gullible and appearing unwelcoming.
Some people are more introspective than others, wanting to dig deeper and figure out the whys and wherefores of a particular subject, even when no one is prodding them to do so. Others have more of a, "let's just get on with things and git 'er done," attitude. The way you lean has a lot to do with your personality type and isn't really a "right or wrong" kind of thing.

These are my thoughts exactly. This is just what I was thinking and just couldn't put it into words.

Thanks for your perspective. You are a great writer.

All4Seasons · Aug 16, 2011

Ah,some of the finest characteristics :rolleyes: on display here: passing judgement,casting aspersions,jumping to conclusions,then there is just the plain old mean spiritedness.Yes,by all means TRASH a stranger so you will have the satisfaction of knowing you are just too darn smart to be deceived. How rude and aggressive! Next time, choose the high road- simply click on another thread if it seems implausable to you (I can assure you it won't seem that way to everyone.

Respectfully,

An RN whose philosophy it is is to treat others as though they were my dearest family members.

rn/writer, RN · Aug 16, 2011

Ah,some of the finest characteristics on display here: passing judgement,casting aspersions,jumping to conclusions,then there is just the plain old mean spiritedness.Yes,by all means TRASH a stranger so you will have the satisfaction of knowing you are just too darn smart to be deceived. How rude and aggressive! Next time, choose the high road- simply click on another thread if it seems implausable to you (I can assure you it won't seem that way to everyone.
Respectfully,
An RN whose philosophy it is is to treat others as though they were my dearest family members.

With all due respect, although some members did get a little prickly, I don't think anyone "TRASH[ED] a stranger" in this thread.

Many members are weary of having students come here and ask, not just for help with their homework, but for us to do the whole shebang. There are polite ways of declining to do that, and I'm encouraging anyone who did get prickly to either report a suspicious post, to gently decline such a request, or simply to back away from the keyboard for a moment. The plain truth is we're not doing students any favors if we just hand them the answers. That doesn't mean we don't like students or aren't willing to help them. It just means we want to see their thoughts first and be sure that they're invested in their own education.

That said, it would appear that this OP was not asking us to do an assignment at all. She hasn't even started classes yet. It would have been good if she had shared any ideas she had about her own philosophy, but that's something for her to keep in mind for the future.

When all is said and done, it's wise for all of us to cultivate kindness and courtesy so that even when we disagree, it's done in a civil manner.

xtxrn, ASN, RN · Aug 16, 2011

I would seriously hope that one's work as a nurse would reflect ones personal philosophy of nursing.

Yeah - I think I understand what you're saying- but there are patients who make it all about just getting them to the end of the shift. All of the philosophy in the world is irrelevant when it's crisis management all day long. JME. :)