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Specializes in Labor and Delivery.
hi arte,

you said ATI contents are 5 years behind in EBP consistency, I just want to know how accurate that information is, are you pretty sure about that? because since our school is using ATI still and we have evolve at the same time (start this semester), our professors maybe thinking about switching to another online testing program. We are used PrepU on THE POINT, and also we are using evolve for med surg 2 stuffs. If there's a strong evidence of ATI been outdated, I would like to speak to my professor about that. Not that it's going to make any change for me but maybe they will consider changing after this semester. I still need to be in the nursing program for about 1+ year, so my action may help with that exit exam.

thanks for mentioning this.

My professors said the same thing but for some reason we use ATI as well I'm sure after we graduate they will switch haahha.

JMederich

15 Posts

I also have a very difficult time taking those ATI test. I don't know if you know about those tutorials on the ATI website that you can work through after taking the test. (they are long and boring but helpful). One thing that I did this semester for my final was read through the book and did a ton of practice questions, however, you can't look up answers in the ATI book it's all critical thinking questions. It kind of put a light bulb in my head to read between the lines. With this information how will you apply it to the nursing profession? Luckily my program doesn't fail you when you take the ATI it is however added to our grade. I got my first level one this semester and I was devastated but I still received an A in the class. One thing they do emphasize is that if you fail these ATI tests you probably won't do well on the NCLEX and that really is frightening. I hope you get to continue on with your program! Just because you did bad on one test doesn't mean you will always do bad.

In fundamentals if anyone got a level one on the ATI final they had to write out a study plan and prove to the staff how they will do better.

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.

I agree with JMederich . ATI provides a print out of questions that you missed on your test. Review those areas and it will help you when you take it again. Good luck :)

JMederich

15 Posts

I agree with JMederich . ATI provides a print out of questions that you missed on your test. Review those areas and it will help you when you take it again. Good luck :)

Is there an actual place for printing out the questions? Or are you talking about the review at then end of the practice test?

SummitRN, BSN, RN

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Specializes in ICU + Infection Prevention.

Our school recognized that some areas that ATI focused on, the curriculum was not focused on (nor was NCLEX). The school treated ATI as a great assessment and learning tool. Thus, one had to receive Level 2 or 3 on the proctored test. Failing that, one had to get a 75% or better on the remediation. If you didn't, you lost considerable credit, but didn't fail outright (although if your grade was a B- or worse before the ATI, you'd likely fail the class if you failed the ATI). So, no hard exit exams, but a good learning opportunity for the students and the schools NCLEX pass rate is mid 90s.

Specializes in Peds.

My ATI books the school gave me are copyright 2000-2008. I just grad LVN school in Dec 2011 and we used ATI for our exams and they would give us a print out of what we missed. We needed 75% in each exam to pass to next term. The exit exam we needed an 90% to grad. 90%!!!!! My school gave us VATI with coach to help us and my coach gave me the same assessments over and over again. Switch I didn't like. I read all ATI books, ya, I did! I didn't know it was 5 years old etc.

Specializes in Peds.

Hahaha did you go to the same school as me?

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.
Is there an actual place for printing out the questions? Or are you talking about the review at then end of the practice test?

Sorry, I should have said the review at the end. It is printable, however & itemizes what questions that were missed and where to find it in the ATI books.

I'm sorry about your situation. My school had the exact same ATI policy and two people in our class didn't pass the Peds ATI twice and were failed for the course because of that. The bad thing was that they both had A's in the class. There wasn't really anything they could to - it was a school policy. They both appealed and were denied. The happy ending is that they retook the class next term and both passed, just graduated 6 months later.

seunRN

24 Posts

I just don't get it. Why most colleges now are so into ATI? Why based your grade as pass or fail? Back in the days when ATI does not exist, students were able to pass it. There's only 1 good reason to use ATI, just a help- assessment, and to practice students how to get familiar with the types and style of questions NCLEX has. Sometimes I notice that some questions in ATI was inconsistent and I have to argue or ask my teacher about my rationale.

I know colleges gets their accreditation how how well their students pass the nclex. But what I think is important is how they teach their students. How the students will remember how good the knowledge they learned from that school, not all how to be strategically smart about how to take ATI style questions.

Specializes in Med-Surg/urology.
I just don't get it. Why most colleges now are so into ATI? Why based your grade as pass or fail? Back in the days when ATI does not exist, students were able to pass it. There's only 1 good reason to use ATI, just a help- assessment, and to practice students how to get familiar with the types and style of questions NCLEX has. Sometimes I notice that some questions in ATI was inconsistent and I have to argue or ask my teacher about my rationale.

I know colleges gets their accreditation how how well their students pass the nclex. But what I think is important is how they teach their students. How the students will remember how good the knowledge they learned from that school, not all how to be strategically smart about how to take ATI style questions.

I have no clue. Don't get me wrong, I think ATI is a great tool..but in my program it is about 30% of our grade (10% for completing weekly modules that we must get at least a 90% on, and 20% on the exit exam). I think perhaps they feel if we can perform well on ATI exams than we can pass the NCLEX. We took the ATI predictor in february and pretty much all of us who had a 90-99% chance of passing the NCLEX on the first try, did.

JustBeachyNurse, LPN

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.

If the module (home practice) was completed before the applicable final we could get a couple of extra points added to our lowest test grade. The proctored exams were a quiz grade highest level was 100, 2nd highest level was a 90, next level 80, "lowest" level was 75. (75 was minimum final grade to pass a course to progress to next level and/or graduate).

So even if you had a high average and did not do nearly as well on the proctored exam you could still keep your average pretty high. It was used as a tool in my program. I found many of the questions to be very similar to the NCLEX and many of the rationales were also. Some questions/rationales not so much. The caveat with the books was you needed to make sure that you downloaded the updates/corrections from the ATI website if you were going to use the books to study. Some of my classmates missed that highly emphasized piece of information given to us not only by the ATI rep but several times from our instructors and later tried to argue incorrect questions without success. (Some were pretty obvious that the first print of the book was incorrect vs. current evidenced based practice guidelines)

The ATI predictor exam seemed to be pretty accurate for most of my graduating class who took the NCLEX pretty close to graduation, those who waited 3, 6, 9 months or more to register and sit for the NCLEX did not do nearly as well...

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