Are anti-vaccine people conspiracy theorists generally?

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I have an old friend from years ago who I now keep in touch with on Facebook. Her posts are fascinating in the amazing variety of conspiracy theories, some outrageous, some maybe partially true. She's a big believer that cannabis oil will cure just about anything and that information of course is being suppressed by the drug companies and the government.

She blames many, if not all, health problems on vaccines. She also subscribes to some disturbing anti-Semitic ideologies, blaming the network of high powered Jews, led by the evil Rothschild family.

I swear, the internet has turned slightly eccentric people into extremists. 30 years ago this woman was into macrobiotics, native Americans, and New Age philosophies.

Kooky-

Thank you for keeping this thread going.

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It most assuredly does. Read it again.

No. YOU read it again. Good grief. This is like someone insisting that 1 plus 1 equals 5, and who keeps insisting that everyone re-do the math.

Done. Not going to keep interacting with someone who cannot do simple math.

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No. YOU read it again. Good grief. This is like someone insisting that 1 plus 1 equals 5, and who keeps insisting that everyone re-do the math.

Done. Not going to keep interacting with someone who cannot do simple math.

You think you are done.

Probably not,

Seems like people try to quit this thread, and they can't.

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No. YOU read it again. Good grief. This is like someone insisting that 1 plus 1 equals 5, and who keeps insisting that everyone re-do the math.

You only believe that 1+1=2 because you were told that: get woke!

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You only believe that 1+1=2 because you were told that: get woke!

More evidence of BigCoffee helping out their partner BigPharma: [ATTACH=CONFIG]25142[/ATTACH]

This is great news!! Maybe we can get all the antivaxxers to start avoiding pumpkin spice and not worry about childhood vaccinations. Let's get Jenny what's-her-name on this!

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LOL at the graph from gomerblog

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You all accuse those who are unsure or who are anti-vax of being unscientific. But maybe those who believe anything they read from certain sources are no better, no different.

I have yet to see anyone from the anti-vax side of the argument post a single scientific study, not even the study that was funded by the anti-vax group! It's that reason that makes the anti-vaxxers unscientific.

This rather common assault from the anti-vaxxers that those that read and base their practice on the extant evidence are somehow "sheep" that "believe anything they read" couldn't be father from the truth (again see what I posted on the traits of conspiracists, this fits under number 3). We don't believe "everything" we believe that which has gone through the rigor of the scientific method and has been determined to be significant. On the other hand, the anti-vaxxers believe blogs and op-eds that they find via their confirmation bias.

Again, please enlighten us to what you read that supports your position less you be labelled "unscientific".

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You think you are done.

Probably not,

Seems like people try to quit this thread, and they can't.

^^^Lol.

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The Duggar's are entitled to their beliefs just as you are. I've already addressed the issue of their son.

So answer my questions. What did I say about my religious beliefs except that I said "Jesus"?

You're correct that the Duggars are entitled to their beliefs. Your statement that they should be commended for the way in which they educate (or really, refuse to educate) their children about sex is what I take issue with, because I see their beliefs as directly responsible for the behavior of their confused, repressed son taking his urges out on his sisters.

And I answered your second question already in the post you quoted, so I'll just paste it here again:

You stated that HPV could be prevented if people abstained from having sex, as if that should be the sole solution. Most people don't believe in or practice abstinence until marriage, but luckily there are still ways to prevent HPV---the Gardasil vaccine, and condom use---that don't involve imposing sexual repression on others.

To conclude: since you state that abstention from sex before marriage is part of your religious beliefs, and you are insinuating that everyone should follow this mandate to prevent HPV, rather than get vaccinated against HPV or be taught how to practice safe sex, this is how you brought your religious beliefs into the conversation. Clearer?

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Wow, this thread went an interesting route. Came here to contribute my anecdotal experience as a former anti-vaxxer and somehow we've entered Duggarland. :wideyed:

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Wow, this thread went an interesting route. Came here to contribute my anecdotal experience as a former anti-vaxxer and somehow we've entered Duggarland. :wideyed:

Roll with it and share away! :)

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You're correct that the Duggars are entitled to their beliefs. Your statement that they should be commended for the way in which they educate (or really, refuse to educate) their children about sex is what I take issue with, because I see their beliefs as directly responsible for the behavior of their confused, repressed son taking his urges out on his sisters.

And I answered your second question already in the post you quoted, so I'll just paste it here again:

You stated that HPV could be prevented if people abstained from having sex, as if that should be the sole solution. Most people don't believe in or practice abstinence until marriage, but luckily there are still ways to prevent HPV---the Gardasil vaccine, and condom use---that don't involve imposing sexual repression on others.

To conclude: since you state that abstention from sex before marriage is part of your religious beliefs, and you are insinuating that everyone should follow this mandate to prevent HPV, rather than get vaccinated against HPV or be taught how to practice safe sex, this is how you brought your religious beliefs into the conversation. Clearer?

Yes, it is now clearer about the religious beliefs.

I don't know, nor do you unless you've checked with them, what the Duggars did or did not include in their sex education for their kids.

They have numerous seemingly normal kids and one apparent problem child. Not too bad as far as the numbers go.

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