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I have a degree in respiratory therapy, yet am having a hard time finding a job. I am working as a cna, going on my 7th year and I was hoping rt would be my next step up....unfortunately it's not working that way and I am considering challenging the boards via method 3.
Has anyone successfully done this? What tips do you have?
Then if you are in another degree program, focus on that. Nursing isn't something you can just fall back on because you can't get a job in something else or while you work on another degree. It is hard, exhausting work and shouldn't be a last resort.
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No, I asked a question that actually had everything to do with your post. You are acting like you are better than nurses when you, as a CNA, teach other nurses how to do things that are out of your scope. If I had a CNA do that to me, I would write that CNA up in a hot minute. Nothing I am posting is irrelevant, as much as you want it to be.
What question are you referring to? Because asking me why don't you move, why don't you do this, why not do this, does not give me any insight to method 3.
You don't even live in california.
You don't have knowledge of method 3.
You don't have experience of method 3.
Yet here you are.....again. and again. And again.
Not every nurse is stuck up and arrogant. Some people appreciate being told before they make a huge mistake. Some like being shown how to do things. Perhaps you shouldn't assume that things were taught as a cna. You saw cna and you got right up on your high horse didn't you? A cna taught a nurse!? Oh god no! How dare she! I didn't say I taught as a cna. You are aware that other entities work within hospitals, right? You are aware that education is a part of a hospital network right? And you did read my previous posts (or so you claim) where I stated I am in school furthering my degree right? I never stated I taught as a cna or even gave my full job details....because it's irrelevant. It doesn't have to do with the response I was looking for.
If you have something against CNAs, I pity you for disregarding such a valuable asset. I've seen CNAS save lives when the nurses weren't performing CPR properly. I've had rapid response and code blue teams literally call out "yessss!" In glee when they walked up to see that I was present in an emergency situation because they knew I was good and would be able to communicate the situation fluently. I've had doctors ask me to go to medical school. You speak about CNAS as if they are to be seen and not heard or fear standing up to their nurses. Sad, truly.
I don't understand why you are even commenting on this thread when you are 100% out of bounds and contributing literally nothing to the question at hand.
What question are you referring to? Because asking me why don't you move, why don't you do this, why not do this, does not give me any insight to method 3.You don't even live in california.
You don't have knowledge of method 3.
You don't have experience of method 3.
Yet here you are.....again. and again. And again.
Not every nurse is stuck up and arrogant. Some people appreciate being told before they make a huge mistake. Some like being shown how to do things. Perhaps you shouldn't assume that things were taught as a cna. You saw cna and you got right up on your high horse didn't you? A cna taught a nurse!? Oh god no! How dare she! I didn't say I taught as a cna. You are aware that other entities work within hospitals, right? You are aware that education is a part of a hospital network right? And you did read my previous posts (or so you claim) where I stated I am in school furthering my degree right? I never stated I taught as a cna or even gave my full job details....because it's irrelevant. It doesn't have to do with the response I was looking for.
If you have something against CNAs, I pity you for disregarding such a valuable asset. I've seen CNAS save lives when the nurses weren't performing CPR properly. I've had rapid response and code blue teams literally call out "yessss!" In glee when they walked up to see that I was present in an emergency situation because they knew I was good and would be able to communicate the situation fluently. I've had doctors ask me to go to medical school. You speak about CNAS as if they are to be seen and not heard or fear standing up to their nurses. Sad, truly.
I don't understand why you are even commenting on this thread when you are 100% out of bounds and contributing literally nothing to the question at hand.
Because I am a nurse, that's why I'm commenting.
When I see a CNA doing something that is out of their scope of practice that is equally as dangerous & needs to be reported as soon as possible. Which from the sounds of things, you have done.
I have no issues with CNAs, I love & respect great CNAs. When I worked in a nursing home I would not have gotten my job done without my amazing CNAs. But when CNAs think they are nurses, that is what bothers me. There is a huge difference between CNA (Certified Nurse's Assistant) & an Licensed Vocational Nurse or Registered Nurse. Just because you have been an RT & currently work as a CNA does not equal nurse.
By the way, I am not the only nurse who feels this way. It is one thing to stand up for your patient but to be a CNA & play nurse is a very different thing. That is what gets under nurses skin like no other.
I like being told when I am wrong, but by other nurses who can show me where I went wrong & teach me the right way.
Yes, I asked you why you can't move since it was brought up & pertains to you going to school & working.
Such as what? I have all the nursing prerequisites completed. I have many of the core classes completed. But because I don't have any classes entitled "nursing theory" I'm not qualified? I have coached new grad RNS through their tasks, I have had to intervene when RNS made huge mistakes. I have done things I've been asked to educate my entire floor in the hospital on because the RNS were not skilled in doing it as I was. My work as a CNA was mostly in a huge hospital which was a great learning hospital. I have worked very close with many entities in that hospital, I have been doctors right hand, I have coached med students. But because I have CNA behind my name, you assume I am ignorant? Okay....
I'm confused as to how you were able to coach new RN Grads through their tasks when you have CNA behind your name. Coaching new RN Grads? Intervene when RN's made huge mistakes? ( what type of mistakes are you talking about)? I know you said you have a RT degree, but working as CNA is the role of which your hired (or as a RT) does not qualify you to coach nurses or nursing students thru their tasks or to intervene when a RN made a huge mistake unless you are showing them something that relates to your job as a CNA, even then the RN is still the one in charge if your taking care of her patients. I do wish you luck in your hopes of becoming a LPN, it's just I'm a little puzzled over some of your comments, can you explain some examples of the situations you mentioned?
Because I am a nurse, that's why I'm commenting.When I see a CNA doing something that is out of their scope of practice that is equally as dangerous & needs to be reported as soon as possible. Which from the sounds of things, you have done.
I have no issues with CNAs, I love & respect great CNAs. When I worked in a nursing home I would not have gotten my job done without my amazing CNAs. But when CNAs think they are nurses, that is what bothers me. There is a huge difference between CNA (Certified Nurse's Assistant) & an Licensed Vocational Nurse or Registered Nurse. Just because you have been an RT & currently work as a CNA does not equal nurse.
By the way, I am not the only nurse who feels this way. It is one thing to stand up for your patient but to be a CNA & play nurse is a very different thing. That is what gets under nurses skin like no other.
I like being told when I am wrong, but by other nurses who can show me where I went wrong & teach me the right way.
Yes, I asked you why you can't move since it was brought up & pertains to you going to school & working.
It does not pertain to the question at hand. The question was: had anyone successfully challenged the boards...share your experience.
And how is it dangerous for a cna to tell an rn new grad "that's not the urethra....that's the privy parts. Seem dangerous not to. And if you are in the building as an rt and your charge nurse asks you to educate nurses on equipment or abg readings or lung sounds, that is not out of scope or dangerous. You are assuming. Again.
So again, I'll ask you: do you have experience with method 3? If not....bye.
It does not pertain to the question at hand. The question was: had anyone successfully challenged the boards...share your experience.And how is it dangerous for a cna to tell an rn new grad "that's not the urethra....that's the privy parts. Seem dangerous not to. And if you are in the building as an rt and your charge nurse asks you to educate nurses on equipment or abg readings or lung sounds, that is not out of scope or dangerous. You are assuming. Again.
So again, I'll ask you: do you have experience with method 3? If not....bye.
You did not say you were an RT (you said you never worked as an RT) when you educated the staff. As for the rest of your experiences of teaching new grad RNs & doctors & coaching RNs through procedures, were you a CNA during that?
Do you want to tell everyone else commenting in your post to disappear too?
Well since you are not a mod, I'm sorry you do not have that power to make me disappear.
I think she's starting to confuse her lies.
No, I didn't say I never worked as an RT. I said I was having a hard time finding a job. I started out in Nevada and then moved to California after I had a baby. There are no rt jobs even remotely in my area. That doesn't say I never worked as one, it just says I'm having trouble finding a job and not currently working as one. Curb your assumption.
Also, I didn't say I was an rt when OR that I was educating on the privy parts. I simply said I stopped a new grad rn from tearing an old woman's privy parts with a catheter. It's not out of my scope of practice to stop someone from hurting someone else.
Also, do you guys think RTS don't take any general ed? No anat/phys, bio, chem, etc? You think it's a quick diagram of the lungs and that's it? You are mistaken. An RT takes the same anatomy a nurse does. Again, you're taking things out of context, assuming, and belittling because "you're a nurse, that's why." Lol.
No, I didn't say I never worked as an RT. I said I was having a hard time finding a job. I started out in Nevada and then moved to California after I had a baby. There are no rt jobs even remotely in my area. That doesn't say I never worked as one, it just says I'm having trouble finding a job and not currently working as one. Curb your assumption.Also, I didn't say I was an rt when OR that I was educating on the privy parts. I simply said I stopped a new grad rn from tearing an old woman's privy parts with a catheter. It's not out of my scope of practice to stop someone from hurting someone else.
Also, do you guys think RTS don't take any general ed? No anat/phys, bio, chem, etc? You think it's a quick diagram of the lungs and that's it? You are mistaken. An RT takes the same anatomy a nurse does. Again, you're taking things out of context, assuming, and belittling because "you're a nurse, that's why." Lol.
No, we aren't taking things out of context, we are taken what we are given.
Who is belittling who now? Bolding mine.
Once again, were you an RT or a CNA when you educated & taught the RNs & doctors? I'm gonna guess a CNA & say you were out of your scope of practice.
This is what I'm talking about:
I have coached new grad RNS through their tasks, I have had to intervene when RNS made huge mistakes. I have done things I've been asked to educate my entire floor in the hospital on because the RNS were not skilled in doing it as I was. I have been doctors right hand, I have coached med students.
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I think it's time for you to call it quits on this post because you are obviously not getting the answers you want.