Anyone have a nursing supervisor require you to work while sick?

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I got a case of bronchitis in June. I missed 2 days of work, was easily covered, and had a doctors note. Our hospital's policy clearly states we are not allowed to work if our temp. is over 100.5, we've had n/v, and are generally ill. We are required to have a doctors note to come back to work. The day I came back to work and handed in my note, my supervisor called me to her office and told me a doctor's note was unacceptable and wrote me up for missing two days of work. I was floored! Nurses with more tenure had recently missed several weeks of work and there were no issues.

On July 3rd, the bronchitis got so bad it led into pneumonia and I ended up being a patient in the ICU. I was released a week later and was told to come back to work 5 days after being so sick (I also was anemic and received 2 units PRBC's). My doctor had not authorized me to go back to work, however, because of the earlier circumstance of being told a doctors note was unacceptable, I went to work. I had 18 patients that night, felt horrible, and it's a miracle I did not make a med error. As a result I was a bit slower than normal because I was triple checking each med and had 4 tube feeders and several patients with close to 20 meds a piece.

That evening I had a patient refuse no less than 5 times her meds. Two were narcotics and she was not in pain. The other was a BP med and her BP was within normal limits. The other was gabapentin for neuropathy. She denied any pain or discomfort and therefore I did not bother her again until 5 a.m. when she had a narcotic due. She then freaked out on me because she had not taken her narcs all night (although she denied pain and was constantly sleeping). She went to my supervisor and complained that I was "making the decision to withhold her meds. My super called me to her office the next day and reamed me out. I pointed out that first of all our philosophy is our residents have the right to refuse their medication after the nurse gives them an informed reasoning for taking the meds. My super refused to believe me and filed a grievance against me with the board of nursing. Needless to say, I resigned my position. I will point out that in the MAR many nurses had notated on most evenings this patients refusal of her evening meds.

I went through an interview with the board of nursing and they felt I handled the situation appropriately and did all I could to get this resident to take her meds. There was evidence that I did her Medicare assessment. In addition I gave out meds to 17 other patients. Why would I single this patient out???? The board of nursing actually is disciplining my supervisor for requiring me to come back to work without a doctors release. In addition, I was told that I should NEVER work while sick. I knew this but my job was threatened. The board was great and said that I had been put in a difficult position but to call in if ill. It's easier to find a new job than it is to get my license back :)

Sorry for the novel but this whole situation ****** me off. Has anyone had a similiar situation? Could I have done anything differently? I'd LOVE some advice for my new job!

Thanks, Jenn

Specializes in Nurse Scientist-Research.
Don't you guys have unions?

I don't know about a majority, but many many of us do not have unions.

Specializes in critical care; community health; psych.

I've watched as supervisors have acted like it was THE unpardonable sin and actually tell callers "no", as if though the call off was phrased as a request. If I'm in pain, feverish, etc., I am quite distracible and likely to make an error. It is the same as working impaired. I've done my share of working sick. My conclusion is that I would rather take my chances with the write ups for being sick than the write ups for errors.

Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.

The Health Department will site a restaurant and possibly shut it down if it inspects a property and any of it's employees are working and found to have an infectious disease while working around food.

So it makes it ok for a hospital?

You don't know if what you have is contagious until you have a Dx for it.

Employers get away with all kinds if unethical, illegal things. It's only going to get worse.

I have only called off twice in the last six years. Even so, I was treated badly by mgmt when I did.

Specializes in Geriatric, long-term, home health, ICU.

Ironically my husband is from Australia. He says the same exact thing! In Alaska, it's against the nursing statutes to come to work sick, but most employers have found loopholes by promoting what they call "excessive absenteeism" and get away with it.

Specializes in Geriatric, long-term, home health, ICU.
I don't know about a majority, but many many of us do not have unions.

We do not have a union. I won't work for a hospital again that isn't unionized!

Specializes in Geriatric, long-term, home health, ICU.
I've watched as supervisors have acted like it was THE unpardonable sin and actually tell callers "no", as if though the call off was phrased as a request. If I'm in pain, feverish, etc., I am quite distracible and likely to make an error. It is the same as working impaired. I've done my share of working sick. My conclusion is that I would rather take my chances with the write ups for being sick than the write ups for errors.

The BON did tell me that in the future, regardless of what my employer says, I could be fined or have my license suspended by coming to work sick. So I'm in trouble w/ the employer for being sick and I could be in trouble with the BON for working while sick. Regardless, I'm not taking chances in the future. Like the BON said when I pointed this out, it's far easier to get another job than it is to get your license back.

Specializes in Surgical, quality,management.

this scares me. i was off sick last week and had a temp of 38 degrees C (not sure what it is in F but a mormal temp is about 36-37 C). I was halluncinating and seeing a big brown dog at the end of my bed :) with a temp just one degree above normal. Pretty stanadard for me I see some crazy things when I have a temp.

If I had gone into work God only knows wha errors I could of made.

Thankfully I have a very understanding NUM and she worked oncology before she took her present job so she says "dont kill the patient" - by coming into work sick.

I think that it seems, for the most part, nurses are expected to drag in and cover their shifts, regardless. I am "medically retired" now, but while working, if you called out sick on a weekend,you had to make up that shift on another weekend. There were so many times that staff would come in sick, and whatever they had would go through the dept lie wildfire....When I read all the advice about staying home with possible swine flu, i figure that theyre are going to be nursing offices in tailspins. I was once given a "written verbal warning" for excessive use of sick time-when I challenged the notice, I was told that while I'd had good reasons to call out, they were still excessive for a part-timer-like people can plan for illness...:banghead:

Specializes in Geriatric, long-term, home health, ICU.
I think that it seems, for the most part, nurses are expected to drag in and cover their shifts, regardless. I am "medically retired" now, but while working, if you called out sick on a weekend,you had to make up that shift on another weekend. There were so many times that staff would come in sick, and whatever they had would go through the dept lie wildfire....When I read all the advice about staying home with possible swine flu, i figure that theyre are going to be nursing offices in tailspins. I was once given a "written verbal warning" for excessive use of sick time-when I challenged the notice, I was told that while I'd had good reasons to call out, they were still excessive for a part-timer-like people can plan for illness...:banghead:

Our long-term facility is so bad about requiring staff to show up while sick that we were on public lock down for a week last year as every single resident and staff member had acquired the Norovirus.

Specializes in Tele, Home Health, MICU, CTICU, LTC.

I think hospitals need to be held accountable by a higher authority for creating a threatening environment in which nurses who are ill or injured feel they have no choice but to come to work.

I lost my position because I called off work even though I had a doctor's note that said I could not be there. I was told that the note was not an acceptable excuse for being absent from work. They did tell me I could get a FMLA leave to save my job. I was only out for three days, so a FMLA seemed a bit excessive.

I always go to work sick now!

To nurse JennDenn...that is indead a frightening story.

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