Published Jun 7, 2016
that pay as much as nursing ?
martymoose, BSN, RN
1,946 Posts
Im also figuring out now that maybe why I am not finding anything else is because me and everyone else are looking to get out of bedside nursing locally. Many of my coworkers are moving on to practitioners, which I am not interested in, or they move out of the area . The market here is all bedside- we have 4+ acute care hospitals, with 5 colleges pumping out RNs 2x /year.
Maybe I just have to get it through my head if I want to stay with nursing but in a non bedside setting, I am just going to have to move to a different area of the US, which my spouse doesn't want to do ( he's afraid he will never get another job either- same job for 28 years,factory) This area is so saturated with bedside jobs- people complain they cant get a job? come here, it will be no problem. Turnover is that high.
NotMyProblem MSN, ASN, BSN, MSN, LPN, RN
2,690 Posts
I guess I should have been more specific. I meant around 55-60,000 year with preferably a 2 yr degree, but I understand that it might take a 4 year degree. Thanks for the answers so far.It's not fun starting over, but I need to get away from healthcare related jobs. The treatment is atrocious. I never see waitresses or other people that are berated , punched , and verbally abused as healthcare providers are.Can you imagine - going out to a restaurant and seeing the waitress get their arm bitten by a patron? Sued for neglect( oops, sorry, forgot your fries?) etc.Verbally abused?
Thanks for the answers so far.
It's not fun starting over, but I need to get away from healthcare related jobs. The treatment is atrocious. I never see waitresses or other people that are berated , punched , and verbally abused as healthcare providers are.
Can you imagine - going out to a restaurant and seeing the waitress get their arm bitten by a patron? Sued for neglect( oops, sorry, forgot your fries?) etc.Verbally abused?
My job on the regulatory side pays $5K less than your minimum requirement. I made myself afford the pay cut, but I did sign up to work a weekend shift (singular) at $51/hr with a previous employer. I can handle one day a week being that it's on a just-as-busy-but-quieter weekend. I love it!! Just me and the rental traveling the highways...no patients, families, or physicians (until the weekend, of course). Works for me!
Libby1987
3,726 Posts
We were just talking about the good ole days in 1980's home health. I worked about 5-6 hrs/day and made full time wages. Charting was on a half sheet of paper, patients were often chronic and/or stable and seen frequently up to 2 X day for simple NS wet to dry drsg change, or pre fill insulin syringes, or daily administration of insulin. (Boring for those of us who need challenge and are purpose driven) And in high density patient territories, I literally would see 3 patients out of 5 in the same mobile home park. Most of them were who I called our sweet blue haired ladies with normal age related conditions.
And you know? Our nursing staff complained just as loud then as they do now about the paperwork. Makes me wonder how we'll look back in 20 years and think we had it pretty good.
Home health is still an area where you can practice nursing with lots of wins. We get difficult patients/caregivers but they're less common than the appreciative and endearing types. The learning curve for documentation, reimbursement guidelines and regulations is tough and it's hard work, really hard if you're not inherently organized and able to develop efficient routines, but it isn't anxiety ridden. I don't find it hard work actually, or even all that challenging but I stuck with it long enough to get past the hump and have enjoyed it for the past several years.
TheCommuter, BSN, RN
102 Articles; 27,612 Posts
I meant around 55-60,000 year with preferably a 2 yr degree, but I understand that it might take a 4 year degree.
My former roommate's brother-in-law is a correctional officer, a.k.a. prison guard, whose annual pay exceeds what many nurses earn. No college degree was needed.
He earns more than enough to fund an upper middle class lifestyle complete with a housewife, three children, multiple cars, and an enviably nice suburban house.
WanderingWilder, ASN
386 Posts
Electrician, plumber, hvac technician.
calivianya, BSN, RN
2,418 Posts
I worked retail for a short while between nursing jobs. If you think nurses don't get any respect, try retail and see what the general public thinks of you then. They treat you like you are at the bottom of the food chain in intelligence, blame you for the store's policies that you had nothing to do with, and generally treat you like a piece of expendable dirt.
At least even the rudest customers eventually walk away, though. That counts for a lot.
If you're working in the hospital, you're stuck with the same jerk for at least 12 hours, though. I never got stuck with a jerk customer for 12 hours at a time in a previous job. It gets even worse if you work multiple nights in a row and have your patients back. Work some overtime, and it's not hard to spend 60 hours a week with the exact same belligerent people wearing you down.
I'd say being cussed at for 30 minutes is way better than spending double digits worth of hours having abuse piled on your head by the same people over the course of multiple days.
Horseshoe, BSN, RN
5,879 Posts
Have a paralegal friend (2 year degree) who makes tons more than I do. She also gets big bonuses when her boss wins a case she worked on, nice benefits, and other perks.
evolvingrn, BSN, RN
1,035 Posts
At least even the rudest customers eventually walk away, though. That counts for a lot.If you're working in the hospital, you're stuck with the same jerk for at least 12 hours, though. I never got stuck with a jerk customer for 12 hours at a time in a previous job. It gets even worse if you work multiple nights in a row and have your patients back. Work some overtime, and it's not hard to spend 60 hours a week with the exact same belligerent people wearing you down. I'd say being cussed at for 30 minutes is way better than spending double digits worth of hours having abuse piled on your head by the same people over the course of multiple days.
Come now..... How much one on one do you actually spend with a pt???? I will take my 40 bucks an hour with the occasional challenging pt compared to making 8 dollars an hour standing constantly on my feet with even more people still being rude and challenging. The advantage of having pts for a few days is usually you can figure out how to get along with even difficult pts..... It's okay to want to be treated better but your comparisons show you haven't walked in their shoes . (Spoken from a former waitress and gas station cashier/truck stop shower cleaner)
When a pt is on the call light 10 x an hour, Id say that constitutes 1 on 1.
And you pray your other pt's, who the 1 on 1 pt loudly states he does not care about, don't exsanguenate ( sp?) , drop their pressure ( nitro or cardizem drip) fall and crack their hip, skull, etc., or you don't get spanked for failure to rescue because you were oiling the squeaky wheel.
I also dont make near 40 bucks an hour.
we recently had a pt that almost all the staff refused to accept for assignment due to extreme rudeness.
/abusiveness. That person actually stated that she expected 1:1 care because that's what she gets at home. The other pt's could "bleep " themselves.
btw, this person is aox4. We are not allowed to set boundaries. etc. I guess it's not good " customer service". Now imagine doing that for 13+ hours.and forget about charting......