We were discussing the Disneryland measles outbreak at work, and I was appalled to find some of my co-workers refuse to vaccinate their kids. They (grudgingly) receive the vaccines they need to remain employed, but doubt their safety/necessity for their kids.
I must say, I am absolutley stunned. How can one be a nurse and deny science?
As a nurse, you should darn well know what the scientific method entails and what phrases such as "evidence based" and "peer reviewed" mean.
I have to say, I have lost most of my respect for the nurses and mistrust their judgement; after all, if they deny science, on what premise are they basing their practices?
It scares you? It scares me that some nurses are so close minded and don't understand different ways of doing things or not critically thinking about things. I never knew thinking critically meant doing things just because. I am a great nurse, and I advocate for my patients. I care about their health, and I will make darn sure they know the risks before they do anything.
As for the mandated flu vaccine, I have the option to wear a mask the entire flu season, which I will gladly accept. If it comes to me losing my job, so be it. It's a shame that companies and the government are trying to force people into medical issues that they do not agree with. It's my body, not theirs. Patient's have the right to refuse vaccines but nurses don't in the workplace? That is not right. It's slippery slope we are journeying down, and I truly fear the future. When we have no choice. Our country is turning into a communist country where we will eventually have no choice. It's truly a shame.
Getting a flu shot is not just a/b you; it's a/b protecting the community, esp. the weak/vulnerable and protecting your patients. When I get a flu shot, I get the same feeling as I do when I vote; I'm fulfilling a duty. It feels good too.
Am I close-minded for believing doctors and scientists who objectively research the vaccines over an angry mother with a BA in English who starts a blog attacking vaccines? I think not. It's called discernment.
To be clear, you employer requiring that you get the flu vaccine does not foreshadow a future in which the U.S. transitions from democracy to communism. That's a giant leap, don't you think? Big Pharma and the govt are not out to kill us with vaccines. That's all in your head.
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In my neck of the woods, it's the hippie liberals (Boulder, CO) that aren't vaccinating.
In my personal experience with anti-vaccine crowds, it's the fringe on both ends of the spectrum. Definitely not a straight liberal or conservative thing.
Now see? All you had to do was say antivaxer = Republican!
I'll vaccinate everyone tomorrow if that's the case.
JOKE!!
This thread is way too serious
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If this turns into one of those Republicans vs. Democrats threads, I'm bailing out!
I groaned when I saw that as well . . . . . .
The folks where I live are mostly conservative and the vast majority vaccinate. I work hospice but I also work as a school district nurse. The ones who opt out of vaccination are the folks who read Natural News and put essential oils on their feet to cure the "flu".
....It's slippery slope we are journeying down, and I truly fear the future. When we have no choice. Our country is turning into a communist country where we will eventually have no choice. It's truly a shame.
Huh?!?! Communism? What in the world are you talking about?
The folks where I live are mostly conservative and the vast majority vaccinate. I work hospice but I also work as a school district nurse. The ones who opt out of vaccination are the folks who read Natural News and put essential oils on their feet to cure the "flu".
It is scary . . .
Oh my gosh! Humor people. Humor!
I was referring to the posted article about conservatives being more likely to decline mandatory (government) anything.
Whatever. It's an endless circle of nothing getting actually talked about (this thread). Except for useful and respectful information being shared by some such as Boston FNP.
Adios, folks! Have fun beating each other over the head with the same arguments over and over and over...
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Specializes in Med nurse in med-surg., float, HH, and PDN.
To edmia, no longer on this thread:
If you had any clue of the number of threads of a political ilk on the AN site devolved into the growling, knee-jerk, scathing, spiteful, circular back and forth of the liberal/conservative, Republican vs Democrat arguments, you would understand our eye-rolling, disappointed sighs and groans, and why it ain't just a light little introduction of humor. It felt more like a "Oh, no, here we go AGAIN!" moment. The predictable, disrespectful, obdurate flaying practiced by some is TRULY tedious.
I never knew thinking critically meant doing things just because.
Meanwhile, evidence of the benefits of vaccination has been shared in this thread, thus proving the pro-van position actually isn't "just because". You have yet to show science behind your position, which makes your position seem "just because". Irony.
Our country is turning into a communist country where we will eventually have no choice.
When all else fails, call 'em commies. That'll drive your message home real well!
mariebailey, MSN, RN
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Getting a flu shot is not just a/b you; it's a/b protecting the community, esp. the weak/vulnerable and protecting your patients. When I get a flu shot, I get the same feeling as I do when I vote; I'm fulfilling a duty. It feels good too.
Am I close-minded for believing doctors and scientists who objectively research the vaccines over an angry mother with a BA in English who starts a blog attacking vaccines? I think not. It's called discernment.
To be clear, you employer requiring that you get the flu vaccine does not foreshadow a future in which the U.S. transitions from democracy to communism. That's a giant leap, don't you think? Big Pharma and the govt are not out to kill us with vaccines. That's all in your head.