Anti-vax nurses? Are you serious?

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We were discussing the Disneryland measles outbreak at work, and I was appalled to find some of my co-workers refuse to vaccinate their kids. They (grudgingly) receive the vaccines they need to remain employed, but doubt their safety/necessity for their kids.

I must say, I am absolutley stunned. How can one be a nurse and deny science?

As a nurse, you should darn well know what the scientific method entails and what phrases such as "evidence based" and "peer reviewed" mean.

I have to say, I have lost most of my respect for the nurses and mistrust their judgement; after all, if they deny science, on what premise are they basing their practices?

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Forgive me if that's stupidly huge.

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I'm right there with you. It's just so strange to imagine he's gone.

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Jimmy Kimmel Got Some Doctors To Take An Educated Crap On Anti-Vaxxers

P.S. Breaking Bad spoilers at the end. ;)

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Specializes in L&D, Women's Health.

Breaking Bad ended in 2013. We're into "Better Call Saul" now, which might be good advice to the anti-vaxxers:yes:

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Specializes in Anesthesia.

I just noticed that andi78 has changed their screen name to Holistic12.

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I just noticed that andi78 has changed their screen name to Holistic12.

Probably thinks that the older posts won't link back to the new name. Oops!

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I have a 2 year old and is she vaccinated? Yup. She is. Was I vaccinated as a child? Yup. Did it hurt me? Nope. My child has been vaccinated and has never even been sick. She has never had the stomach virus. She's never even had a cold. She doesn't go to daycare (which helps tremendously). She's only been on antibiotics one time and that was prophylactically after she had managed to get a hook in her finger and after it was removed she was placed in amoxicillin to make sure she didn't get an infection.

So I am not anti-vax. I do believe that some vaccinations are pushed too much by our government. For instance, this year they pushed the flu shot more than ever. I have never had the flu in my entire 23 years until I got my first flu shot last year. I got the shot and then about a month later I came down with the flu. This year I decided to see what would happen if I didn't get the shot. Take into consideration, I work in the ER and take hand washing very seriously and if my patient has the flu they have a mask on. This year we were told they didn't predict the correct strains of the flu anyways so the shot wasn't very effective. Who do you think didn't get the flu this year? Yup! Me. Quite a few of my nursing buds who did get the shot did get the flu. So not ALL VACCINES are as effective as the companies that make them claim they are.

I believe that children should be vaccinated. Evidence based practice has proven that vaccines help control infectious diseases. I do believe however that there should be alternate vaccination schedules. Putting all of these vaccines in our children at once can be dangerous. So if a parent is concerned, I think they should have the right to choose a slower vaccination schedule.

In the end everyone has their own take on vaccinations and nothing you or I say is going to change that belief. So calling names and belittling one another for their belief is very judge mental and unprofessional.

I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it.

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Unvaccinated child dies from measles. This is a tragedy that did not have to happen.

Toddler Dies of Measles in Berlin, First Death in Outbreak - ABC News

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So I am not anti-vax. I do believe that some vaccinations are pushed too much by our government. For instance, this year they pushed the flu shot more than ever. I have never had the flu in my entire 23 years until I got my first flu shot last year. I got the shot and then about a month later I came down with the flu. This year I decided to see what would happen if I didn't get the shot. Take into consideration, I work in the ER and take hand washing very seriously and if my patient has the flu they have a mask on. This year we were told they didn't predict the correct strains of the flu anyways so the shot wasn't very effective. Who do you think didn't get the flu this year? Yup! Me. Quite a few of my nursing buds who did get the shot did get the flu. So not ALL VACCINES are as effective as the companies that make them claim they are.

I believe that children should be vaccinated. Evidence based practice has proven that vaccines help control infectious diseases. I do believe however that there should be alternate vaccination schedules. Putting all of these vaccines in our children at once can be dangerous. So if a parent is concerned, I think they should have the right to choose a slower vaccination schedule.

Regarding the first bolded comment: I hope you're not suggesting that the flu shot gave you the flu a month later, right? Whether or not you have ever had a flu shot or ever had the flu of course has no bearing on whether you CAN get the flu, and that it doesn't appear as a direct result of having received the vaccination, so not sure I'm following you on this.

Regarding the second bolding: I believe it wasn't that they predicted the wrong strain (I think? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong!) but I THINK it's because the strain mutated much more quickly than usual and the vaccine 'missed the mark' because of the mutation of the virus, not because it was the 'wrong' virus. And the other two/three strains that are in the vaccination ARE on target, so....while it's only 23% effective against Influenza A, it's still 23% MORE effective than if no shot had been given at all.

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Unvaccinated child dies from measles. This is a tragedy that did not have to happen.

Toddler Dies of Measles in Berlin, First Death in Outbreak - ABC News

Just horrible.

But then, there will be those who will insist this isn't a deadly disease, no one actually dies from it. Despite....this. :(

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I believe that children should be vaccinated. Evidence based practice has proven that vaccines help control infectious diseases. I do believe however that there should be alternate vaccination schedules. Putting all of these vaccines in our children at once can be dangerous. So if a parent is concerned, I think they should have the right to choose a slower vaccination schedule.

In the end everyone has their own take on vaccinations and nothing you or I say is going to change that belief. So calling names and belittling one another for their belief is very judge mental and unprofessional.

Why do you believe this to be true? Based on what evidence are you saying that giving vaccinations according to the currently-approved schedule is "dangerous"? How so? If a parent vaccinates at a slower rate than currently suggested, all they are actually doing is leaving their child exposed to these diseases for longer periods of time, not protecting them from whatever harm they mistakenly believe the vaccinations can do, so....where is the evidence to suggest 'waiting' is a good thing?

If a child contracts measles before being immunized simply because the parent had the 'right' to choose to delay it longer than it should have been, thereby leaving the child at risk when he didn't need to be....how can we as healthcare professionals advocate this as reasonable?

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