Alverno DEMSN 2021

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I've recently been conditionally admitted to Alverno's demsn program, slated for Summer unless a spot opens up in Spring. The conditional being that I finish the labs for the prerequisites and two psychology courses as I've only finished the didactic portions in a marathon 9 week section.

Does anyone have any experience with this program, or Alverno in general? Any advice would be much appreciated.

OK yea I totally agree. 

Specializes in NHP.

Hi everyone,

Yes @damiorifice, I read the book and answered some of the questions at the end of each chapter. The book has so much details and stories while his video just brushes a little bit in each chapter. At one point I don't know if his video will be useful or not. Did he ask questions from the things he mentioned in his video though ?  How many questions was on that exam for all these information I'm reading in this book ? ?‍♀️ The only thing I know for sure is I like his voice, I fell alseep twice while listening to the video. ?

 

For your question @Darling2013, I'll take grad loans.  I'm starting this Summer. If any of you is starting in May, let me know.

42 minutes ago, Katoo said:

Hi everyone,

Yes @damiorifice, I read the book and answered some of the questions at the end of each chapter. The book has so much details and stories while his video just brushes a little bit in each chapter. At one point I don't know if his video will be useful or not. Did he ask questions from the things he mentioned in his video though ?  How many questions was on that exam for all these information I'm reading in this book ? ?‍♀️ The only thing I know for sure is I like his voice, I fell alseep twice while listening to the video. ?

 

For your question @Darling2013, I'll take grad loans.  I'm starting this Summer. If any of you is starting in May, let me know.

I can't stress this enough. Watch that video 2x before taking your test. Watch it at double speed if you can handle it to make it take less time. That's what I did, and I did very well on the test. I don't remember how many questions it was, but he hits the highlights you need to pass in that video.

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@KatooI'm still on the waitlist for the Summer cohort, will update you if I get in. 

 

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Specializes in NHP.

OK to both you. 

Alright, I have been accepted to both Marquette and Alverno DEMSN. Alverno awards you with both a BSN and an MSN, while you get a RN licensure from Marquette and a MSN.

Does anyone know if when applying for beside RN jobs, preferably at hospitals, if having the edu from Marquette vs. Alverno are equally competitive? I like Marquette slightly better but I also need to be sure that I will be able to find a bedside nursing job fairly soon after graduate to get experience before practicing as an NP.

If anyone has some insight it is greatly appreciated!

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Specializes in oncology.
27 minutes ago, hostilebisexual said:

while you get a RN licensure

You get the paperwork to apply for a ticket to test the Wisconsin NCLEX licensure exam. Would you actually have a BSN degree granted at that point? Should you desire to opt out of the educational program at that point would you have a college diploma that you were awarded a BSN or met the requirements for a basic RN program,

36 minutes ago, hostilebisexual said:

Alright, I have been accepted to both Marquette and Alverno DEMSN. Alverno awards you with both a BSN and an MSN, while you get a RN licensure from Marquette and a MSN.

Does anyone know if when applying for beside RN jobs, preferably at hospitals, if having the edu from Marquette vs. Alverno are equally competitive? I like Marquette slightly better but I also need to be sure that I will be able to find a bedside nursing job fairly soon after graduate to get experience before practicing as an NP.

If anyone has some insight it is greatly appreciated!

Wow, congrats. With either program you will have a job before you graduate most likely.

 

‘I lean toward having the BSN as well. Some employers have a preference for that. Veterans affairs pay scale notes the difference when choosing your tier for example. 

9 hours ago, damiorifice said:

Wow, congrats. With either program you will have a job before you graduate most likely.

 

‘I lean toward having the BSN as well. Some employers have a preference for that. Veterans affairs pay scale notes the difference when choosing your tier for example. 

Thanks for your input. I have noted that some employers do have a preference for someone who has a BSN versus someone who doesn't. I may talk to my CNL and see what he thinks.. I guess I'm more worried about not having it and not being able to get a job I want rather than take what I can get I suppose. 

9 hours ago, damiorifice said:

Wow, congrats. With either program you will have a job before you graduate most likely.

Another thing I have on my mind.. Alverno offers around 720 clinical hours while Marquette offers around 1020. What is your opinion on the number of clinical hours offered? Do you think 720 will be enough?

20 hours ago, hostilebisexual said:

Thanks for your input. I have noted that some employers do have a preference for someone who has a BSN versus someone who doesn't. I may talk to my CNL and see what he thinks.. I guess I'm more worried about not having it and not being able to get a job I want rather than take what I can get I suppose. 

Another thing I have on my mind.. Alverno offers around 720 clinical hours while Marquette offers around 1020. What is your opinion on the number of clinical hours offered? Do you think 720 will be enough?

I will be shooting straight over to a pmhnp program the day I graduate, then doing a pmhnp residency once I finish. I’m honestly not that concerned with the clinical hour difference. I learn extremely fast. I’m concerned about getting paid as quickly as possible a living wage for my large family.

I’m in my 3rd semester of the DEMSN and I can assure you it is awful and it keeps getting worse. My grades are great so I promise you I’m not an angry, failing student- the program really is awful. Covid presents a lot of challenges but even outside of that, the program is extremely disorganized. There is poor communication amongst all the faculty and it affects students quite a bit. Most of your classes will be online and you will be teaching yourself. Many of the professors do not even provide a zoom class or a recording. There is very limited interaction, just sloppy powerpoints they took from the BSN curriculum and links to 20+ articles online. Many of the professors, especially for the first 2 semesters, are brand new to teaching and don’t know what they’re doing. The clinicals are an absolute joke and are basically like any other class in that you just write papers and do projects. You might get to go to a hospital a couple times in semester 2 but you won’t be doing much other than filling out paperwork. They made a lot of changes due to covid, but they still charged the full tuition price! It’s a lot to explain, but basically we paid for a clinical class we never actually took- we just got the credit for it. If you just want a degree then who cares, but if you actually want to learn? Not OK. They also cut 4 weeks (¼ of the semester) and material off all our classes but still charged full prices. 

It is a masters program but your first 3 semesters are BSN courses, doled out as 14-18 credits a semester. It is an unreasonable amount of work, and we all cut a lot if corners to just get it done. We are not truly learning, we’re just skating by until graduation. We all feel very unprepared. There is no NCLEX prep either. 
 

The cohort started with 55, and I know at least 7 have dropped. It’s a small group so we all talk, and everyone has the same complaints. Maybe of us have written the dean about issue after issue, but nothing improves. I could go on and on. Nurses schools across the country are in bad shape (from what I hear) but go somewhere else. This place is not worth the enormous undue stress. 

3 hours ago, bananochka said:

I’m in my 3rd semester of the DEMSN and I can assure you it is awful and it keeps getting worse. My grades are great so I promise you I’m not an angry, failing student- the program really is awful. Covid presents a lot of challenges but even outside of that, the program is extremely disorganized. There is poor communication amongst all the faculty and it affects students quite a bit. Most of your classes will be online and you will be teaching yourself. Many of the professors do not even provide a zoom class or a recording. There is very limited interaction, just sloppy powerpoints they took from the BSN curriculum and links to 20+ articles online. Many of the professors, especially for the first 2 semesters, are brand new to teaching and don’t know what they’re doing. The clinicals are an absolute joke and are basically like any other class in that you just write papers and do projects. You might get to go to a hospital a couple times in semester 2 but you won’t be doing much other than filling out paperwork. They made a lot of changes due to covid, but they still charged the full tuition price! It’s a lot to explain, but basically we paid for a clinical class we never actually took- we just got the credit for it. If you just want a degree then who cares, but if you actually want to learn? Not OK. They also cut 4 weeks (¼ of the semester) and material off all our classes but still charged full prices. 

It is a masters program but your first 3 semesters are BSN courses, doled out as 14-18 credits a semester. It is an unreasonable amount of work, and we all cut a lot if corners to just get it done. We are not truly learning, we’re just skating by until graduation. We all feel very unprepared. There is no NCLEX prep either. 
 

The cohort started with 55, and I know at least 7 have dropped. It’s a small group so we all talk, and everyone has the same complaints. Maybe of us have written the dean about issue after issue, but nothing improves. I could go on and on. Nurses schools across the country are in bad shape (from what I hear) but go somewhere else. This place is not worth the enormous undue stress. 

Disorganized? Sure a little. Lots of PowerPoint? No different than medical school in that regard. Learning nothing? I call *** there. I’ve been in the program less than 2 months and I can already explain basic immunology, raas, inflammation pathways, gsr, and a host of medications. Our cohort hasn’t started clinical yet so I can’t comment on that, but you share a very different opinion than other students I’ve heard from your cohort if you are even an Alverno student. 

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