Advice from someone who hires

After years of hard work, you finally graduate from nursing school and in spite of rosy predictions of a great job market, you're finding it's really hard to find a job. Maybe even worse than finding a spot in nursing school, or harder than passing the NCLEX. I hire employees and I know what goes on on the other side of the application process. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

First, you probably read books about putting a resume together, or even hired someone to polish yours. Those are good steps, but to set yourself apart from the masses, you need to do more. Before you even start writing your resume, talk to your friends, classmates, professors and employers. Ask them what they perceive your strengths to be. Take inventory of ALL your skills and accomplishments. Women in particular have a hard time promoting themselves. Don't be shy. Start an informal list of your achievements. If you won awards, jot that down; if your GPA was high, put a little check mark beside that, did you spend time supervising others? Think hard... this doesn't have to be a job title, just a job responsibility. Compile your resume in the way that best suits your skills. If you're a young new grad without work experience find a resume template that highlights your academic history; ditto for someone with vast work experience.

While you're talking to those professors and employers, ask their permission to use them as a reference. Get their preferred contact information. Don't limit yourself to a few people because you don't want to ask the same people for letters over, and over. (It's flattering to be asked, but time consuming to actually write letters for people. Have a number of references you can rotate through as needed.) And, of course, don't have them contacted by prospective employers until the end of the hiring process.

Now, decide what kind of job you want. There are thousands of people out there who apply for every job they find. You may feel anxious, but casting your net too far and wide won't bring many calls for interviews. There is a reason for this, which I'll explain later. Be realistic in your expectations. You probably have a sense for what jobs are most desirable and where competition is intense (Labor & Delivery, peds, etc.) If this is your goal, it'll be even harder to land your dream job. Not to say those jobs are impossible to find as a new grad, but there are many others applying for them. If your ultimate goal is a job with lots of competition, find another way in: if you want to work in a NICU, maybe start at a Children's Hospital working with more difficult patients. Once you figure out where you want to be, concentrate your efforts to those jobs. Write your resume with that in mind. Using the peds example, focus your resume on your experience with kids; your peds rotation, and any other experience you have that shows you're interested in children.

Now, scour the ads, but don't limit yourself to posted or advertised jobs. Talk to everyone you know, tell them what you're looking for and ask if they have any leads. When you do hear of a possibility, focus on that one job as you write your cover letter. Talk about why you fit into THAT organization, talk about their mission, their organizational structure and why you want to work THERE. (You can find organization's mission statements on their websites and learn other details about them, too.) So, your letter reads something like, "I share Washington Hospital's committment to serving the underserved memebers of the community..." Then talk briefly about your volunteer experience giving flu shots to uninsured patients through your church's medical efforts. You want to make sure you set yourself apart from the other applicants. Your cover letter should be less than one page of easy to read text (no tiny font!)

Making your application specific to an employer or organization is time consuming, but it pays off. This is why you want to be specific in your job hunting efforts. When people tell me they sent out 2000 applications, I know that virtually all of them were read briefly and put in the 'big pile'. You're better off sending 20 specific applications than 2000 general ones.

After you send your resume and cover letter, follow up with another letter expressing continued interest. You may even make one phone call to check in. If you hear nothing after three months, send another resume and a new cover letter (can be basically the same, just tweak it to say you're still intersted in working for them). Tell them you're available for an interview and be upbeat, professionally enthusiastic and pleasant.

Speaking of professional, please do NOT include emoticons, or write your cover letter on pink stationary (honest, I've seen this!) When someone is looking through a pile of resumes (whether electronic or hard copy), the first ones cut are those with such glaring unprofessional appearances, or terrible spelling or grammar.

And, if you're lucky enough to be invited for an interview, wear something professional. A suit is better than slacks and a blouse, but do not show up in jeans! Even though it may be perfectly acceptable to wear jeans to class, to restaurants, etc., it is NOT OK to wear jeans to a job interview. If you have to borrow something or even buy a suit at Goodwill, it would be a great idea... trust me! The person interviewing you will notice what you're wearing.

When you get home from the interview, write a thank you note to the person who you spoke with (or several notes if you were interviewed by several people). Thank them for their time, express your strong desire to work there, and express that you look forward to their decision and "if there is anything else I can do..." If you don't hear something in a week, email or phone them and politely ask if they have made a decision and that you're very anxious to be part of their team.

Yes, writing multiple, specific letters is time consuming, but there is a pay-off. Think of it like this: would you rather get a generic birthday card from someone with a stamped signature? or open a card that you know was chosen just for you and had a handwritten note inside saying what a great friend you are?

Best of luck to all!

Wow, Ms. Patty RN. That is a great article, and very helpful tips. I would've never thought of that at all. I learn so much just by reading and networking. Your wisdom is very appreciated. How should we write an interest letter, and a thank you letter to the employer for the job we are seeking?

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Excellent post!

As an employer and manager, I look for any signs that an employee may not work out, prior to hiring them. My methods save me time and money in the long-run. I look for the same things Patti_RN mentioned, and a few more. First, if you have a Facebook page, I will be looking for it. If it is not set up as a private account then I will assume that you want me to see everything on your account including embarrassing photos, terrible spelling and grammar, family and friends, etc... I can learn a lot about an employee in a very short time by checking their non-private Facebook account and I tend to look before I ever make a phone call for an interview. My suggestion is, no matter how perfect your life appears to be (to you) on Facebook, it would be in your best interest to make sure that prospective employers can not view it. Judgements will be made, and you may not like them.

If you use ring-back tones on your phone and this is the contact number you have given to prospective employers, it would be wise to shut it off while looking for a job. If I am making a phone call to schedule an interview and I am greeted by a loud, obnoxious rap song, I will hang up and not call back. Additionally, please remember to answer the phone professionally when you have applied for a job. I have made several calls in the past and been greeted by a "What's up?" or "Who's this?" before a proper "Hello" and I have responded with "I am sorry, I must have the wrong number". While seeking a job it is best to be as professional as possible, including on your cell phone, and your internet life. These are the new realities in a world of advanced technology. Good luck with your job search ~ Remember: Professionalism is key!

This has been a most informative thread, and I want to thank everyone in hiring capacities for their advice. I have been a graduated nurse RN BSN since 2007. I did not go into nursing immediately after graduating nursing school, i ended up taking up a clinical support position in medical device due to previous customer service background, long story short the the economy tanks late 2008, new grad and residency programs drop off the map. I continually send in applications and receive rejection letters. I finally get to speak to a live recruiter who advises me to register for a nurse refresher program which I finally was able to successfully complete. I was also infomred my not going into clinical nursing sends up a red flag. So I send out the same applications now with the refresher certification, add in ACLS, BLS, I still get rejected. I feel that I will need to build up my resume with more certifications such as 12-lead EKG, EKG interpretation, IV therapy, all at my expense to show my passion for nursing. I would be willing to continue to take clinical practicums at my expense until they equal the equivalent of 1 year experience. Any advice for this anomaly of a situation would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your kind attention.

I am just hoping with my BSN I have more luck. SUCKS to be an LPN right now!

I have my BSN and I have yet to get any of this luck. Sucks to be a new nurse grad of any kind right now :/

I've read comments here and on other threads from applicants who are dissatisifed because the hiring manager didn't contact them afterward, or the director accepted a phone call in the midst of an interview, or the manager didn't spend enough time with them. There are some reasons this could happen, other than the interviewer being rude.

I'm one of these people I guess...I metioned that my interviewer answered a page during my interview. Since I was sitting there I couldn't help but listen to her part of the conversation and while I see what you're saying, this definitely wasn't an urgent page. That, coupled with the other things (she had no idea what nursing school I went to despite having my resume in her hand, she promised to phone me on Friday with her decision and instead sent me a letter via bulk (!!!) mail 5 days later as an apparent afterthought, ignored my phone calls and emails as if they literally did not exist) all added up to me feeling completely irrelevant to this woman.

I don't care how busy you are, it's not that difficult to not be blatantly rude. It obviously took more effort for her to type up a rejection and mail it to me than it would have been to pick up the telephone. It's like she went out of her way to make it harder for herself. She could have handled answering the page in a much better way than she did. She gave me the impression that she had absolutely no interest in me as a person or as a potential employee, and was just going through the motions so she could get me out of her hair as soon as possible. I'm sorry but that sucks. I can't stand when people look down their nose at you and get away with it because they're in a potition of power over you and their behavior is excused because they're "busy." Is my time not important also? If you don't have the time to devote your individed attention to the interview (emergencies excluded), re-schedule it for another time. That's just the way I feel...

Those are really helpful tips. I really think that it really helps to be confident about yourself, especially your skills. It also helps to make your resume as honest as possible, so the interviewer doesn't feel that what you and your resume are saying are conflicting.

This was tremendous advice. You are right, it can be very difficult to promote yourself. It seems a little awkward, but in the end it will pay off when you get to walk into a patient's room and introduce yourself as their nurse!

First, if you have a Facebook page, I will be looking for it. If it is not set up as a private account then I will assume that you want me to see everything on your account including embarrassing photos, terrible spelling and grammar, family and friends, etc... I can learn a lot about an employee in a very short time by checking their non-private Facebook account and I tend to look before I ever make a phone call for an interview. My suggestion is, no matter how perfect your life appears to be (to you) on Facebook, it would be in your best interest to make sure that prospective employers can not view

And why would a prospective employer need to check one's facebook activity? That is a personal website used for socializing. Thats like following a applicant to a bar after work to see how they behave, how much they drink ect. That ridiculous. Honestly I think checking someones facebook is a bit much. I thought people were hired based on professional employment history, education ect. Checking criminal background, drug screening/medical is fine. Facebook snooping is too much, and also says alot about the employer.

Yeah checking facebook is a little bit crazy but many employers do that so be careful!

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Yes, employers DO look at Facebook pages. Personally, I don't do it, but I know others who do. Not only do some managers check you out on Facebook, some actually ask you for your password during the interview. When I first heard that, I was stunned and I believe it's quite an invasion of a person's privacy. But, it is legal, (although it may be against Facebook's terms of service). My advice to anyone who is concerned about prospective employers (or current employers) stalking them on Facebook (or other social media) Close your account!

As I said, I don't check anyone's Facebook, but I can see why others might do so. It's no different than hiring a background check company to look at an applicant. Some of the many things those background companies do is check your credit history, see if you have landlord/ tenant complaints, go to your neighbors at current and previous addresses and ask them questions, check your academic and employment history, see if you're the plaintiff or defendant in any legal proceedings, learn if you've ever filed for bankruptcy, and check your driving record... as well as your criminal history, drug screening, etc.

Every applicant does the same when it comes to references: they include only the most glowing details of their employment and academic history. Employers want to know more about the applicant. When a person is hired and entrusted with the health and well-being of patients, given access to narcotics, and expected to be at work--on time--every workday, the employer has a duty to make sure that person is honest, dependable, and trustworthy.

Linda, I see this first-hand. I've had people come to interviews wearing scrubs, jeans and t-shirts, and even a young woman wearing pajama bottoms with a spaghetti-strap top! I think she really did just roll out of bed (it was an 11AM interview!)You're so right that finding a job IS a job! And, sadly people dismiss this kind of advice as old fashioned or 'we don't do that anymore', or 'that's what my parent's generation did'. Applicants need to present themselves to their audience, and most likely the interviewer will be older and professional.
what is your advice for young second degree students, particulary those with health related degrees who are pursuing RN careers right after graduating college with first degree

Great thread! Thank you so much for your insight. I was wondering if you might help me with setting up my resume. I am a new grad with very little nursing experience, but I am also 50 years old with tons of experience in business ownership and mgmt. How might I intertwine that with a nursing resume?